Ripping apart the ELH...

[James McMurray]

Back on topic.

The example advanced dragon has slots over 9th level to cast with. It also has quicken spell. However, it casts as a sorcerer, making Q-spell worthless and meaning those slots are just extra 9th level slots.

It also has Spell Opportunity and no touc spells worth using for an AoO.

 

[jujutsunerd]

The largest real world medieval cities had at most 200,000 people during their most prosperous times.

While that is doubtlessly true, I'd have to say that it depends on your definition of medieval.

In the year 100, there were four cities larger than 200,000.
In the year 1000, there were three cities larger than 200,000.
In the year 1500, there were five cities larger than 200,000.

Source:
http://geography.about.com/library/weekly/aa011201a.htm

/Jonas

 

[Darkness]

Charles, if you want even more errata, there's a thread similar to this one on the WotC boards.

 

[KarinsDad]

While that is doubtlessly true, I'd have to say that it depends on your definition of medieval.

It also depends on the definition of city. I'm glad you found the data you did as I was having difficulty finding anything more than vague references. However, your source does state:

"His figures include the city and surrounding suburban or urbanized area."

I think the figures I was looking at were within the city limits proper, but the data is very sparse and it's hard to be sure.

Opening up FRCS, it appears that the population figure for the city proper is 133,000, and for the entire surrounding area is about 1,215,000 for a total of about 1,348,000. The information was just a little obscure the way they wrote it. But, having 90% of the population in the countryside as opposed to in the city makes a lot more sense as does bringing in 10% of the food calculated earlier.

 

[Leopold]

I say they take 1 dozen or the stingiest, rule lawyered, editing fiendish people from on here. Make em sign NDAs and have them given free copies of the material. When it's done for a reward give them a free copy of the prited book and have their names go down as editors or playtester or whatever.


It's been done before and it's being done now for a publisher I am working with. He all made us sign NDA and we ripped and tore through his material and spit it back at him with improved functionality and a helluva lot less errors. What do we get out of it? Why a free copy of the book that are signed by the authors and our names in the book. Not bad for about 40hrs worth of work over a few months time..

 

[CRGreathouse]

I believe the cap is removed for Improved Manyshot. It states...



I believe the "cap" it is referring to is not the cap of 4 attacks per round derived from your BAB. It's referring to the "cap" of 4 attacks from the Manyshot feat, quantified by the flowing statement in the Improved Manyshot description...



As you can see, the Manyshot feat specifically limits you to 4 arrows, based upon the limitations of your maximum number of attacks from your BAB. However, Improved Manyshot removes this restriction, by specifically referring to the limitations of Manyshot and stating that there are now no more limits to it.

You're right, the cap it's talking about is the Manyshot cap. That cap is removed. However, soince your BAB no longer improves, you can't get more shots from Improved Manyshot.

 

[CRGreathouse]

Does it explicitly state that the Polymorph Any Object spell is what changes it to mithril?

From the PAO spell:

"This spell cannot create material of great intrinsic value, such as copper, silver, gems, silk, gold, and platinum."

Sounds like you have to make it out of mithril first before casting the spell, in which case it would revert back to a pile of mithril and still be extremely valuable.

Either that, or they have another error in that the PAO is explicitly prevented from changing anything to mithril, but they used it for that anyway.

Yes, this is in my original post.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I say they take 1 dozen or the stingiest, rule lawyered, editing fiendish people from on here. Make em sign NDAs and have them given free copies of the material. When it's done for a reward give them a free copy of the prited book and have their names go down as editors or playtester or whatever.


It's been done before and it's being done now for a publisher I am working with. He all made us sign NDA and we ripped and tore through his material and spit it back at him with improved functionality and a helluva lot less errors. What do we get out of it? Why a free copy of the book that are signed by the authors and our names in the book. Not bad for about 40hrs worth of work over a few months time..

Hey, I'm all for it.

 

[kreynolds]

However, soince your BAB no longer improves, you can't get more shots from Improved Manyshot.

I disagree. Improved Manyshot doesn't give you extra attacks beyond 4, it gives you extra arrows with each of your attacks (1 attack as a standard action, plural if you're hasted or something), not extra attacks, so the limitation on attacks per weapon don't apply. There's a big fat difference there. Besides, the feat would be worthless otherwise, and I think the intent is pretty clear.

 

[CRGreathouse]

I disagree. Improved Manyshot doesn't give you extra attacks beyond 4, it gives you extra arrows with each of your attacks (1 attack as a standard action, plural if you're hasted or something), not extra attacks, so the limitation on attacks per weapon don't apply. There's a big fat difference there. Besides, the feat would be worthless otherwise, and I think the intent is pretty clear.

Kreynolds, you seem to misunderstand. I'm not saying that the limit on # of attacks holds you back. It doesn't, as Manyshot and its epic version bypaass this restriction (though they are obviously modeled after it). I'm saying that if your BAB is +20 and will never, ever get better (as in the Epic rules), IM won't give more than attacks.