Rogues are useless!

[Kzach]

If they don't have a weapon.

Although there seems to be no mechanic (that I can find) for disarming, it's still annoying that a rogue, even a 30th-level one, is utterly useless without a weapon.

And not only just a weapon, but a specific type of weapon.

I find this to be utterly ridiculous.

The simplest solution that I can see is to allow unarmed strikes to count for melee requirements.

Otherwise there are going to be a lot of situations where the rogue has to sit back and watch everyone else have fun.

 

[keterys]

Otherwise there are going to be a lot of situations where the rogue has to sit back and watch everyone else have fun.

Purely imaginary situations that almost never happen, you mean?

Rogue imprisoned, stripped of all weapons (including the hidden ones)... and unable to make or obtain a shiv. I think that pretty much covers the only one that might come up in a game I'd expect to run.

 

[SomebodyInteresting]

Umm... how many rogues do YOU know that don't carry a rapier, a shortsword, a sap, a club, four daggers, and a crossbow? >.>

Butsrsly, if you're not confident with the rogue's unbeweaponed prowess, choose something like warlock or wizard that can hold his or her own naked.

 

[Kishin]

A weapon based character is gimped without weapons?

This comes as a great shock and is even now forcing me to seriously reevaluate my worldview.

;P

 

[That One Guy]

House rule that small sharp improve weapons count as light blades.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Broken bottles, windows and plates (nice sharp ceramic) are RL weapons, ya know!

Arrows, arrowheads, spear heads...large list!
And a sling is easily made and ammunition easy and free (though I still think sling ROCKS should do 1d4+1 damage and -1 hit vs sling bullets which should be the standard for sling ammo).

 

[Rhianni32]

Broken bottles, windows and plates (nice sharp ceramic) are RL weapons, ya know!

Arrows, arrowheads, spear heads...large list!
And a sling is easily made and ammunition easy and free (though I still think sling ROCKS should do 1d4+1 damage and -1 hit vs sling bullets which should be the standard for sling ammo).

Yeah but what if they are without a weapon, in a room without any bottles, windows or plates? A rogue is completely useless!!!! I'm going back to 3.5

 

[Jack of Tales]

You do realize he only posted this to be a troll, right?

 

[Harr]

The simplest solution that I can see is to allow unarmed strikes to count for melee requirements.

Well, sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

Weapon: Many martial powers, as well as several divine powers, can be used only if you’re wielding a weapon. (You can use an unarmed attack as your weapon.)

 

[Kzach]

You do realize he only posted this to be a troll, right?

Right, yes. You're so very knowledgeable. That would be why I've included the rule I posted above into my house-rules. 'cause I'm just trolling.

Well, sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

But in every rogue power it specifically states that a type of weapon is required, whereas in other powers it just states 1[W] or whatever.