Traveon Wyvernspur
First Post
Perhaps my Google-ful is weak, but I can't find the answer to this, all I'm finding are opinions and no actual RAW.
The problem I'm running into deals with the Overhand Chop/Backswing 2H Fighter Archetype powers and whether the 2x strength takes over forthe 1.5x 2H weapon strength multiplier on attacks, or if they are cumulative. I see no errata and it could be read either way. When looking at the descriptions of both of those powers, neither says that the 2H weapon's 1.5x strength multiplier is replaced, but both of the 2H weapon powers say, "he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls..."
Please correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions below.
Information:
STR 20 = (+5)
Raging bumps to STR 24 = (+7)
Power Attack = +6 at BAB of 5
Weapon Bonus = +1
Weapon used = Falchion 2d4 (18-20 crit)
Assumption of the Overhand Chop (OC) = 2 x STR bonus and it taking over the 1.5 multiplier of a normal 2H weapon being wielded on attacks...
*Normal OC non-raging = 5 STR bonus * 2 OC multiplier = +10 damage
*OC with Raging = 7 STR bonus * 2 OC multiplier = +14 damage
So what I come up with non-raging and using my power attack:
2d4 + (10 OC) + (6 PA) + (1 WB) = 2d4 + 17
---> On a crit 4d4 +34
Raging:
2d4 + (14 OC) + (6 PA) + (1 WB) = 2d4 + 21
---> On a crit 4d4 + 42
OR does this add into the fact that you already get the 1.5x multiplier and then it goes up even more?
Assumption if strength is CUMULATIVE with the 2H weapon 1.5x strength:
STR 20 = (+5) * (1.5) ---> (+7) * (2) = (14)
Raging 24 = (+7) * (1.5) ---> (+10) * (2) = (20)
Doing a CUMULATIVE Strength OC:
Non-Raging:
2d4 + (14)+(6)+(1) = 2d4 + 21
---> 4d4 + 42 on a crit
Raging:
2d4 + (20)+(6)+(1) = 2d4 + 27
---> 4d4 + 54 on a crit
The problem I'm running into deals with the Overhand Chop/Backswing 2H Fighter Archetype powers and whether the 2x strength takes over forthe 1.5x 2H weapon strength multiplier on attacks, or if they are cumulative. I see no errata and it could be read either way. When looking at the descriptions of both of those powers, neither says that the 2H weapon's 1.5x strength multiplier is replaced, but both of the 2H weapon powers say, "he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls..."
Please correct me if I'm wrong in my assumptions below.
Information:
STR 20 = (+5)
Raging bumps to STR 24 = (+7)
Power Attack = +6 at BAB of 5
Weapon Bonus = +1
Weapon used = Falchion 2d4 (18-20 crit)
Assumption of the Overhand Chop (OC) = 2 x STR bonus and it taking over the 1.5 multiplier of a normal 2H weapon being wielded on attacks...
*Normal OC non-raging = 5 STR bonus * 2 OC multiplier = +10 damage
*OC with Raging = 7 STR bonus * 2 OC multiplier = +14 damage
So what I come up with non-raging and using my power attack:
2d4 + (10 OC) + (6 PA) + (1 WB) = 2d4 + 17
---> On a crit 4d4 +34
Raging:
2d4 + (14 OC) + (6 PA) + (1 WB) = 2d4 + 21
---> On a crit 4d4 + 42
OR does this add into the fact that you already get the 1.5x multiplier and then it goes up even more?
Assumption if strength is CUMULATIVE with the 2H weapon 1.5x strength:
STR 20 = (+5) * (1.5) ---> (+7) * (2) = (14)
Raging 24 = (+7) * (1.5) ---> (+10) * (2) = (20)
Doing a CUMULATIVE Strength OC:
Non-Raging:
2d4 + (14)+(6)+(1) = 2d4 + 21
---> 4d4 + 42 on a crit
Raging:
2d4 + (20)+(6)+(1) = 2d4 + 27
---> 4d4 + 54 on a crit