Ryan Dancey - D&D in a Death Spiral

At any one point in time there are no new customers, in the future there will be new customers. There are no untapped pools of customers such as wizards no has with dnd players. Loans is were the big money is to be made, and that is a very tricky business, a bank absolutely does not want to provide a loan to everyone, even at the legally maximum rates.

WotC might not be making every product for every gaming table, I will say again, the more I see of the Essentials line, the more it seems that it completely replaces the current line of core books. It's using an unfamiliar format, smaller books, boxed sets and raising the dnd startup fee drastically. The PHB is essential split up between two books, for a total of $40, the dmg is now also $40 but does come with adventure and screen, mm is the same price with another adventure. So besides the red box the bare minimum starting price for players has gone up by 33%, for dms 22%. Presentation did change and you get all te content more piecemeal, but your still hit in the head with all thirty levels at once. The core rules seem to have been made unusable due to the amount of errata in the last two years, so folks will be happy to buy an updated version. But I imagine that the new format will repulse many old 4e customers, not something that would seem like a good idea for a game that has been hemoraging customers. A fun fact is that in the secondary market there are far more 4e core books then 3.5e core books, especially the 3,5e phb has become very valuable. If 4e was doing well i would say there wouldn't be such a high demand for older dnd books...
 

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IFRS? IAS 14? Sorry, have no idea what you're referring to, here. Is this SEC legislation?
Nope, but there is a long running IFRS / US GAAP convergence project, so they might be pretty similar these days.

Of course, IAS 14 has been replaced by IFRS 8 for recent accounting periods.
 

At any one point in time there are no new customers, in the future there will be new customers. There are no untapped pools of customers such as wizards no has with dnd players. Loans is were the big money is to be made, and that is a very tricky business, a bank absolutely does not want to provide a loan to everyone, even at the legally maximum rates.

Loans are not the only financial vehicle in a bank's repertoire. That's why they have so many more products available. Even commercial lenders hedge their bets. Sure, loans tend to make the biggest money, but they aren't the whole picture by any stretch.

Same in gaming. The current market die-hards may be the most obvious spenders, but getting others to buy products is the key to success because you can't count on a single, unrenewable customer pool. If you do, you perish.
 

(2) All of the reasons why Mr. Dancy's opinion should be doubted would apply rather equally, I think, to the TSR situation he had previously commented on. If motive is a big reason to say WotC is failing now, motive was just as strong when describing why TSR failed then -- esp. as at least one TSR employee openly said it wasn't so.

Can you elaborate on that part?
 

I could, but I would have to slog through hundreds or thousands of pages of EN World (?) posts to do so. Suffice it to say that, back when we were told what the final days of TSR were like, there was at least one TSR employee from that period who disputed his claims at the time.

Back when this was the argument of the day, I would have been able to lay finger on the quotes relatively quickly, but I'm not sure what Google Search words would best locate them now.

If I have the time to try to locate the quotes, I will do so, but it won't happen immediately (or I'd have linked in the post you quoted from!).



RC
 

If you find it, I'd appreciate it - I hadn't realized there was any dispute to the concept that TSR was dying. I thought it was pretty much common knowledge that it had been bled dry by Williams...

Thanks for the reply!
 


I'd be curious, as well. I've heard that Dancey got a few minor facts wrong, according to at least one TSR employee...but that he had the majority in right. Having no direct experience, I couldn't say either way. A quick googling shows that Monte Cook, in his interviews with lots of former TSR employees, doesn't really agree or contradict Dancey in any way. None of them liked the end of TSR, but no one offers any data on it, other than 'we lost our jobs' and some went to Seattle.

A couple DO say that the departments in TSR were very insulated and that they rarely knew what was going on in other departments in the company and that the suits and the creatives didn't get along very well.
 

I would say you only need one of the "Heroes of the..." books to play 4EE. Which cuts entry cost into 4E to 20$ (13$ @ amazon).

The Essentials Core Rulebook is more on the GM usage side, since the class books already have the very basic guidelines.
 


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