Sacred cow monsters

lukelightning said:
Ah, but they have a base form of a human woman (or man, now that I think of it...they are not always female).

It would be cool to reimagine them as having a base form that is either horrifyingly bizarre or totally neutral, but everyone viewing them sees them as their sexual ideal. So someone may see the succubus as the standard hot vixen chick, but I'd look at the same creature at the same time and see it as Jaston Statham.
If they did that, then their "tempting" image could just be a phantasm, which would be a nice horrific element -- especially when the illusion is suddenly seen through, possibly at the worst possible moment. :]
 

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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
If they did that, then their "tempting" image could just be a phantasm, which would be a nice horrific element -- especially when the illusion is suddenly seen through, possibly at the worst possible moment. :]

Yeah, it reveals itself in the form of the victim's mother! Waaaaagh! Must...wash...brain...with...draino!
 
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Whizbang Dustyboots said:
If they did that, then their "tempting" image could just be a phantasm, which would be a nice horrific element -- especially when the illusion is suddenly seen through, possibly at the worst possible moment. :]

reminds me of several Red Dwarf episodes, episodes "Psirens" and "Camile"...and some of the polymorph episodes.

monster x lures heroes to doom because she looks totally hot...

Shade said:
"New" creatures that fill the exact same niche previous creatures filled better

Speaking of overkill with niche monsters, I'd like to see the fae templated. I'd like to see something along the lines of if you have X amount of HD then you get 2 minor and 1 major power...I just get tired of seeing the same creature in a different environment...and for some reason I have images of the hordling table from 1st edition...ah chaos I love thee...
 

Beholders, Illithids, Umber Hulks, Trolls, Death Knights, Visages, Orcus, Pazazu, Graz'zt, undead of all stripes.. uhm I think that about covers it.

But that being said, yes PLEASE drop Spawn of Tiamat. :p
 


I want the first 4e monster manual to be at least 500 pages, and I want it to have all kinds of monsters from lots of the previous editions supplements. I want this thing to be an amazing resource that I can use for years and years and never tire of all the options in it.

But, then I want too much.

What can be missing? Whatever monsters that almost never get talked about on any of the boards. There are quite a few. Drop them.

Dave
 

My absolute requirements for a 4E monster manual are Dragons, Angels (female), Nymphs, Dryads, Succubi, Erinyes - and plenty of pictures of each. Hey, I need something to look at while I'm waiting for the DM to adjudicate some obscure rule my character isn't involved in. ;)

Seriously, though, as long as it includes good guidelines for creature types, ala MM II, and maybe a sample creature for each CR, I don't really care what creatures are included. As a DM, I'm generally going to run whatever kind of creatures I want, even if I have to fudge 'em and fake 'em. Although, if it were possible, I would like to see Yipples, Grues, Ur-grues, Monkey Grinders, Corbies, and other creatures from the old PC text adventures finally statted out somewhere in a published work. And it would be ridiculous if it didn't include dragons.

Vrecknidj said:
I want this thing to be an amazing resource that I can use for years and years and never tire of all the options in it.

But, then I want too much.
Nah. You forgot to mention that it needs to be bound in real dragonhide, include a cloth bookmark, and retail for less than the 3.5 MM. :D
 

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