Satyr - An excuse for rape, or an interesting creature?

[Keeper of Secrets]

Someone brought up all those examples of half creatures. Half demons, cambions, etc. I wonder if the other participant was willing? Though, I suppose the distrinction is rape that occurs and rape that occurs to a PC. I can see a PC getting pretty ticked about that.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Subjectivity aside, if you believe rape is the worst thing that can happen to a person you are 100% wrong.

Is this thread destined to descend into some sort of atrocity spiral?

I can probably make some folks' heads explode with that kind of stuff, but I'm not sure it adds anything to the discussion and it absolutely violates ENWorld's posting policies.

 

[Desdichado]

Thomas Covenant getting away with rape and being hailed as a hero by people who knew he was a rapist was offensive enough to make me stop reading Donaldson.

Same here.

 

[Numion]

IMO, this creature's basis is -sex-. The origins of it are sexual. The mythos, legend, art, and architecture of this creature are sexual in nature, and often deviant at that.

Does this creature have a place in D&D?

Sex can have a place in some tables. However, rape isn't about sex.

 

[Voadam]

Just to steer this freight train back onto some semblance of a track - the topic here specifically regards the Satyr (or other types of sexual creatures).

Given the nature of these creatures - do the have an appropriate place in the game? Satyrs, and even Succubi or Erinyes, or Cambion demons all are very "sexual' in nature - at least at how I see them.

I'd like to see more ideas from people on how to creatively use these creatures that don't necessarily involve acts of a sexual nature.

Definitely a role offscreen with NPCs I would think for sexual fiends. Have them connected to people they have corrupted or gotten close to through sex and use them as plot elements. For example, "The count's consort is really a succubus in disguise! I guess that explains why he accused the priests of St. Cuthbert of being secret devil worshippers and had us raid their temple. Do you think they were actually innocent?"

 

[Delta]

If you expand the discussion to other creature types, you might ask "What's going on with a charmed high-Charisma captive of a 1E Dryad?" From 1E MM:

If seriously threatened, or if near a male with a 16 or greater charisma, the dryad will use her powerful charm person spell which may be cast up to three times per day, once per melee round, with a minus 3 on the victim's saving throw. If a person is taken away by a dryad, there is a 50% chance they will never return, and if they do return it will be from 1-4 years later.

 

[Piratecat]

It's a controversial and interesting discussion that has slid over the Grandma Line, so I'm going to close this thread with no particular malice. Thanks to everyone who expressed their opinions without denigrating someone else's opinions - it's appreciated.

As always, feel free to email me with questions, concerns or complaints.