SCOOP! Wizards to release 3E Draconomicon

[D'karr]

Re: RE the 'official' vs third party question

Again, I return to my main point--don't blame others for not looking at 3rd party stuff. It's the responsibility of those companies to market and sell their products.

Good point but if someone has the availability to a product and decides not to buy it because it doesn't look "pretty" then that is another issue.

I agree that companies need to market their products well. If I pick up a product and it looks like it was put together by my 3 year old son I'm pretty sure I won't buy it. However, I've seen some products that were beautiful in appearance and completely sucked when it came to substance.

 

[Tiefling]

Apparently not, as I am still confused to what your stance is. Your statement said to me that you will not buy any product with art you consider substandard reqardless of the content.

While I disagree with his position, I think you're wrong here. He did indeed say that he won't support a company with bad art, but that doesn't mean he values art more than content. He didn't say, "I also won't buy a product with poor content but good art," but that could very well be true, in which case he values art and content equally.

 

[Yeoman]

Re: RE the 'official' vs third party question

There are many good reasons why some poeple (including people I game with) don't bother with 3rd party material: They don't know about it; some of it is shotty material; it often has lower presentation standards (illustrations, layout, etc); the authors are less known; and perhaps most imporantly, they are less available than WotC products.

That's a perfect example in my area. The local stores around here carry mostly Wizards of the Coast, with the occasional Fast Forward Games book, whereas I see all sorts of 3rd party stuff, because I happen to buy alot of books in Ann Arbor, like 80 miles away from where my group lives. They have good materials, that our local shops will never carry.

 

[Bendris Noulg]

I'm in two games, and I've found "official" has taken on two definitions.

1. In the game I DM, "official" is anything I bring to the table.
2. In the game I play in, "official" is anything the DM brings to the table.

Been gaming for 20 years, and I've yet to see a valid reason for another definition to exist.

 

[Kai Lord]

I am still confused to what your stance is.

I see that, but it doesn't appear anyone else is, which is good enough for me.

 

[Olive]

What was the Dragonomicon? Missed a lot of 2e stuff I did.

Personally, it sounds ok to me. I like WotC stuff generally better than 3rd party stuff. Not sure exactly why, but I do.

And I LOVE Reynolds' art.

 

[Desdichado]

Hey, Yeoman, where do you live exactly? I'm always on the lookout for other Motor City gamers...

 

[Wolf72]

What was the Dragonomicon? Missed a lot of 2e stuff I did.

Personally, it sounds ok to me. I like WotC stuff generally better than 3rd party stuff. Not sure exactly why, but I do.

And I LOVE Reynolds' art.

All about Dragons, ... new dragons, dragon gods, dragons with classes (or did they just get more spells?), and dragon interbreeding ...

 

[Pants]

Totally off topic:
The art from the revised books is great. Finally, a good looking Blackguard (not counting the ELH).

 

[Olive]

Thanks Wolf.

Maybe this will be a Savage Species dedicated to dragons?