I was reading up on perception and can't find anything about search I.e. I search for traps, hidden doors, my pen ect ect. Under perception it says it's automatic as a reaction or a move action to intentionally perceive. Is there something special for searching for previous stated items.
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IronWolf
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Perception covers search in Pathfinder. So if you are looking for hidden doors then you would make a perception check.
Not sure I answered your question, so feel free to clarify and I am sure someone here can help you.
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The_Gneech
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Yup, it's Perception. "Intentionally searching for stimulus is a move action."
If you want a rogue to have a chance to automatically spot traps, take the Trap Spotter rogue talent.
If you're just ransacking a room, that's an extended Perception check.
-The Gneech
If you want a rogue to have a chance to automatically spot traps, take the Trap Spotter rogue talent.
If you're just ransacking a room, that's an extended Perception check.
-The Gneech
hunter1828
Butte Hole Surfer
Check the table with the description of the Perception skill for a list of different types of Perception checks, including concealed & secret doors, hidden traps and more, along with a variety of modifiers depending on conditions.
Yup, it's Perception. "Intentionally searching for stimulus is a move action."
If you want a rogue to have a chance to automatically spot traps, take the Trap Spotter rogue talent.
If you're just ransacking a room, that's an extended Perception check.
-The Gneech
Thanks for all the replies. I do know all the modifiers and what not im just wondering about the amount of time. My party was searching a building and it took us 4 hours to do so. And it was only about 30 squares. I argued that it would only take a move action per square. Or even just looking for a hidden door do you need to search for a long time or just a move action.
The_Gneech
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The rules don't have a fixed time beyond the move action, so it's mostly "whatever the GM says" if you're searching something like a building. The four hours figure may have come from the GM's memories of 3.x, where taking 20 on a Search check (what many parties default do when searching for treasure) would take two minutes for a 5' x 5' square, so an hour for an hour for a 60 x 50 area. If it was a four-story building, four hours would be about right -- but that would have given you a 20+ result for every square in the building.
Compared to Call of Cthulhu where a typical trip to the library can last four hours to net you one single useful paragraph, it's not that bad a rate.
Of course, Pathfinder halves the time according to RAW, so even taking 20 in a four story building 60' x 50', you should have been done in two hours, if you really want to nitpick. You run the risk of having the GM throw dice at you if you do, tho...
-The Gneech
Compared to Call of Cthulhu where a typical trip to the library can last four hours to net you one single useful paragraph, it's not that bad a rate.
Of course, Pathfinder halves the time according to RAW, so even taking 20 in a four story building 60' x 50', you should have been done in two hours, if you really want to nitpick. You run the risk of having the GM throw dice at you if you do, tho...
-The Gneech
IronWolf
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I think the GM has a fair amount of discretion on determining the time it takes to search for something in a given building. An empty warehouse? Likely less time than "normal". A warehouse packed with aisles of goods? Then likely more time than "normal". Environmental considerations would factor into how long it took to thoroughly search for something in games I GM.
. ill talk to the GM and we can put some rules into stone.
