D&D 5E Shadow step out of a grapple?

[iserith]

LOL. Funny enough, the barbarian grappled them, and threw them out of their tower. Into the light.

And I'm sure someone will say, "pulling me into the light wouldn't have done anything if I could still see the shadows.", missing the joke

You actually have to be both in dim light or darkness and the destination space be in dim light or darkness.

 

[seebs]

In certain prior editions there'd've been no 'call,' it'd've been clear, or ther'd've been a consensus on what The RAW called for.

I would have thought that once.

Then I saw a large debate on the Pathfinder forums over whether or not you could grapple someone in gaseous form.

 

[Tony Vargas]

I would have thought that once.

Then I saw a large debate on the Pathfinder forums over whether or not you could grapple someone in gaseous form.

That's just the process of building a consensus on The RAW. It's cool that 3.5 fans can still readily get that same experience from PF.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Look at that. You're totally right. Amazing what you forget after it's been over a year already. Geez time goes by fast. I may have misremembered because I don't recall a single time I wasn't in shadow myself, so it probably never came up.

 

[iserith]

Look at that. You're totally right. Amazing what you forget after it's been over a year already. Geez time goes by fast. I may have misremembered because I don't recall a single time I wasn't in shadow myself, so it probably never came up.

I only remember it because hobgoblin iron shadows have a similar ability and I've used a number of those creatures in my current campaign. My players get a real kick out of sabotaging their ability with a mundane torch.

 

[Guest 6801328]

Does it seem like it fits the rules? Check.

Does it feel like the cooler option? Check.

Yup, good call.

 

[seebs]

That's just the process of building a consensus on The RAW. It's cool that 3.5 fans can still readily get that same experience from PF.

I haven't seen consensus form on most such things. Heck, I don't think we actually reached *consensus* on whether you can see through an invisible door in 3.x.

 

[TheCosmicKid]

So the monk in my party was grappled by an Otyugh tentacle and announced that as they were fighting in dim light he was going to shadow step out of the grapple. This struck me as a bit slick and I was going to still ask for a dex roll to break the grapple before shadow stepping. But as shadow step is described as teleportation it actually seems fine by the rules to simple step out of the grapple.

I know I've gotten into trouble before with shadow step so I sided with monk. But I'm curious as to opinions here. Was that the right call?

Yeah. He's a frickin' ninja. Slick moves like that are his prerogative.

 

[Argyle King]

I haven't seen consensus form on most such things. Heck, I don't think we actually reached *consensus* on whether you can see through an invisible door in 3.x.

I think you'd have line of sight, but not line of effect in that situation.

 

[seebs]

I think you'd have line of sight, but not line of effect in that situation.

Yes, and I thought this was obvious, but there were a significant number of people asserting that nothing says you can see through an invisible thing, only that you can't see the thing anymore.