Shamus does AoO


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Since the two propably won't be merged and I'm the only one that answered the earlier thread, here's my comment:

I've never been one of those who have a baziliion problems with AoO's, but lately, I've begun to see it as an unneccesary rule.

Not a bad rule, really, and I see why other people like it, but imho nothing that belongs into the Core rules, where it's just clutter that blocks the accessability of the game.

I mean, using a potion is bad enough without AoO (you already give your opponents a free round of attacks), you could rule that casting while threatened always requires a concentration check, you already completely block a five foot square of movement and when you really want to keep someone from passing you, casting next to you or drinking a potion, you can prepare an attack (including trip and sunder attacks).

I can see really expirient combatants making free attacks given certain circumstances, what sounds like a neat idea for feats to me.
 

Rack up another vote for "Love the comic but not this strip".

AoO aren't difficult 95+% of the time after you learn the basic four or five methods that will crop up commonly. The worst that happens in the course of the strip is a chain of attacks that only gets two deep and none of the ones mentioned are caused by the really obscure stuff?

Nice try. Better luck next time.
 

el-remmen said:
While the author's little rant after the strip contradicts me, I looked at it as making fun of players, not the rules.
Ditto. I think AoO is cake, but I swear I've been in that conversation before. :)
 

....somebody needs to link that pidgeon video clip in retaliation to the cartoon.



And yes, I'm on the "not funny. AoOs are not difficult to understand" group.
 

In the rant afterwards he says: "If someone enters a square adjacent to an enemy, that enemy gets a free swing at them, right then and there, regardless of who’s turn it is."

That's not even a correct generalization, right? Just walking into a threatened space isn't enough, you have to move through a threatened space...

Jeez, now I'm questioning my knowledge of the rules... you really don't provoke an AoO just for walking up to someone, right? :uhoh:
 

chaotix42 said:
In the rant afterwards he says: "If someone enters a square adjacent to an enemy, that enemy gets a free swing at them, right then and there, regardless of who’s turn it is."

That's not even a correct generalization, right?

No. The author got the rule wrong. In fact, there's not a single AoO provoked in the entire strip, since Aragorn is grappled and so has no threatened squares, and the only action taken that would have provoked one was moving away from him.
 



Mark me down as another person who understands AoOs pretty well, thinks they're reasonably clear, but still laughs at the strip. For me at least, the funny comes not in the supposed critique of the rules, but rather the idea that heroes would be arguing minutiae like this in the middle of combat. In fact, I had hoped that the D&D movies would feature in-character rules arguments, to really capture the experience of playing the game.

Oh, and the rest of the series is pretty much genius.
 
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