D&D 5E Shield Master vs Two Weapon Fighting on a rogue

[Quartz]

In aggregate, half of the rest of the party, since the opponent is prone until their next turn when they stand up, not until the Rogue's next turn. Also, prone grants disadvantage to ranged attack rolls so it penalizes any characters doing that.

Yes, but if that person next to you is a Paladin, particularly a high-level Paladin, doing + 1d6 Radiant damage per hit plus Smite damage. Or a Fighter with multiple attacks.

And doesn't someone falling prone provoke a Reaction for extra smack-down sweetness?

Only if they are within 5 ft. Anyone attacking from range will be at disadvantage.

How about Reach weapons?

 

[Oofta]

Yes, but if that person next to you is a Paladin, particularly a high-level Paladin, doing + 1d6 Radiant damage per hit plus Smite damage. Or a Fighter with multiple attacks.

And doesn't someone falling prone provoke a Reaction for extra smack-down sweetness?



How about Reach weapons?

Other PCs getting attacks depends on order, an there is no penalty for standing from prone other than it taking half your movement.

Any attacker within 5 ft of a prone target gets advantage. See the "conditions" at the end of the PHB.

 

[Mistwell]

My lightfoot halfling rogue is attacking with advantage most rounds. He hides behind an ally the prior round, then pops out and attacks from hiding with advantage. He then moves back behind the ally and hides again with a bonus action. He can also attack with his off-hand if the main hand misses, at the expense of hiding again that round. No feat needed.

 

[NotAYakk]

My lightfoot halfling rogue is attacking with advantage most rounds. He hides behind an ally the prior round, then pops out and attacks from hiding with advantage. He then moves back behind the ally and hides again with a bonus action. He can also attack with his off-hand if the main hand misses, at the expense of hiding again that round. No feat needed.

"Pops out" ends hiding, no? Once the enemy has a clear LOS, hiding ends.

 

[Oofta]

"Pops out" ends hiding, no? Once the enemy has a clear LOS, hiding ends.

It's very DM dependent and the DM can allow it

However, under certain circumstances, the DM might allow you to stay hidden as you approach a creature that is distracted, allowing you to gain advantage on an attack roll before you are seen.​

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Personally I take a "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" approach. Might work once, won't work twice. You can't play peek-a-boo in my game to get advantage.

 

[Mistwell]

"Pops out" ends hiding, no? Once the enemy has a clear LOS, hiding ends.

If you run out into the open then sure. But if you attack from behind cover (you look around the corner from that hidden space and attack immediately) Crawford said that's a legit use of cunning action to gain advantage on the attack. A whole discussion here.

 

[Oofta]

If you run out into the open then sure. But if you attack from behind cover (you look around the corner from that hidden space and attack immediately) Crawford said that's a legit use of cunning action to gain advantage on the attack. A whole discussion here.

Still up to the DM. Some will allow it, some won't.

 

[Mistwell]

Still up to the DM. Some will allow it, some won't.

Sure, but we're in a thread about feats, which are an optional rule. Seems legit to raise "lead rules person at WOTC says your rogue can already attack with advantage without even needing a feat" in this thread, doesn't it?

 

[Oofta]

Sure, but we're in a thread about feats, which are an optional rule. Seems legit to raise "lead rules person at WOTC says your rogue can already attack with advantage without even needing a feat" in this thread, doesn't it?

Barring errata, no. I'd even accept Sage Advice for Adventurer's Guild or some other official clarification.

Until then the guidelines are that the DM decides. It's up to the DM whether or not they take that twitter conversation into consideration.

 

[DND_Reborn]

"Pops out" ends hiding, no? Once the enemy has a clear LOS, hiding ends.

I think this is more because the character is a lightfoot halfling, who can attempt to hide when moving behind a larger creature, at which point LOS is lost and the bonus action to hide is appropriate. FWIW that's how we play it. Other racial features like Mask of the Wild for wood elves work similarly in our game.

Otherwise, I agree unless the target can become heavily obscured (thus losing LOS on it), they normally can't hide as it automatically fails.