D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

[Yaarel]

I'm not going to belabor this point with you. Agree to disagree.

As concluding comment. D&D 2024 is ten years worth of errata all in one place.

 

[Scribe]

My dude. I already - to correctly use the word 'literally' - posted the LITERAL text from the 2024 PHB page 5. The first sentence LITERALLY says "This is the 2024 version of the fifth edition Player's Handbook."

That is - again, to use your term, - literally saying it is Fifth edition, a new version but still FIFTH EDITION.

Marketing spin. Its 5th in the same way Tales of the Valiant and Level Up are 5th.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Marketing spin. Its 5th in the same way Tales of the Valiant and Level Up are 5th.

Of course, neither TotV nor LU are any version of the 5th edition Player's Handbook. They are different books that use the same core rules base.

 

[Scribe]

Of course, neither TotV nor LU are any version of the 5th edition Player's Handbook. They are different books that use the same core rules base.

All of the new versions, TotV, LU, and 5.5, stand on top of the 5.0 SRD.

Regardless, 2024 is not '5.0' as 2024 does not include the Half-Elf.

 

[Micah Sweet]

All of the new versions, TotV, LU, and 5.5, stand on top of the 5.0 SRD.

Regardless, 2024 is not '5.0' as 2024 does not include the Half-Elf.

This is the crux of my misunderstanding with @Yaarel . He keeps talking about why whereas my concern is what. Why is irrelevant to what.

 

[Scribe]

This is the crux of my misunderstanding with @Yaarel . He keeps talking about why whereas my concern is what. Why is irrelevant to what.

Exactly, I dont really care about the word twisting.

Is Half-Elf in the 2024 PHB, if so, what page.

Thats it.

 

[Stormonu]

Stupid question maybe, but if you haven't bought the 2014 books, do their options show up? I've been told for example, if you don't own the Volo's Guide to Monster book on Beyond that you can't see the legacy monster options for that book (I can't tell, I have that book on beyond).

I ask because if you can't see the legacy content, you CAN'T make a 2024 Half-elf with the published content.

 

[Yaarel]

Exactly, I dont really care about the word twisting.

Is Half-Elf in the 2024 PHB, if so, what page.

Thats it.

At the same time. The absence of the Half Elf mechanics is a difference in setting. It would be incorrect to mischaracterize it as a difference in edition.

 

[Scribe]

At the same time. The absence of the Half Elf mechanics is a difference in setting. It would be incorrect to mischaracterize it as a difference in edition.

Nope. You can continue to try and redefine things, but its not a question of setting at all.

The 2024 "5.5" PHB is not a setting book.

 

[TwoSix]

Terms and definitions are relevant if people want any kind of clarity. It's not pointless, unless people want to just assume their version is the truth.

That's not how meaningful discussion can take place.

Is Half-Elf present? Some are claiming it is, when apparently it's not in the book at all.

Pointless indeed.

The way to clarify if half-elf is playable is to ask the group or DM if it’s playable.

What I think people are really asking is if half-elves are part of the “meta-setting” of D&D still with the rules evolution. Like, if BG3 had come out a few years later would Shadowheart not have been a half-elf.