D&D 5E Should WotC Keep the Love Domain as is?

[CleverNickName]

...can we talk about something else?

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Seduce is definitely a word with negative connotations.

"Dishonest" =/= "negative". And im not talking about common presup applied connotations to a word. Im talking about what the word refers to (not the word itself which is a different thing) and its default nature. It doesnt HAVE the connotations you speak of. Unless you mean "dishonest" which isnt truly negative.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

...can we talk about something else?

Gladly...

Why are there beehives everywhere?

Why are my hands made from louisville sluggers?

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Can't imagine which: Raping someone for the greater good, or being raped for the greater good?

Either. Whatever. Dont care. Its a simple point. And a correct one.

 

[prabe]

Either. Whatever. Dont care. Its a simple point. And a correct one.

I'll disagree with that.

 

[prabe]

I'm not looking for hypocrisy. I'm looking for understanding. Supposing the no votes meant, "WotC should not keep the Love Domain as it is.", then that implies to me that the problem goes beyond the labels or fluff given to the domain, and that any domain with any rewording - calling it Beauty or something - but the same mechanics would be objectionable. Do you think that is a fair reading, and if it is, why didn't they vote for renaming it?

I think "keep the Love Domain as it is" is most likely to be interpreted as exactly as it is, fluff and mechanics and all. I also think it's reasonable to consider the "Yes but change it" votes as kinda "no" if you're trying to actually tabulate this.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Either. Whatever. Dont care. Its a simple point. And a correct one.

No. It is a patently false point, and an incredibly disgusting and immoral point.

 

[Bohandas]

I still don't understand why this is so much more controversial than all the other magical effects that manipulate people's emotions.

As I said before, nobody ever complains that the "good hope" spell is false hope, which would be an equivalent argument.

 

[Rikka66]

I still don't understand why this is so much more controversial than all the other magical effects that manipulate people's emotions.

As I said before, nobody ever complains that the "good hope" spell is false hope, which would be an equivalent argument.

Because of the association with love, specifically how we in the modern world like to think of as being it's more positive form.

 

[prabe]

I still don't understand why this is so much more controversial than all the other magical effects that manipulate people's emotions.

As I said before, nobody ever complains that the "good hope" spell is false hope, which would be an equivalent argument.

This was about a domain called "Love" that smacked of date rape. There are creep factors in many of the enchantment spells, to be sure, but problem here wasn't that. Context matters.