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Re: ...about to alienate 97% of the female readers
Sorry for the Late reply Humanophile and Buttercup, I only log in during the week (from work).
Humanophile: You didn't specify what confuses you. I can comment that I have not lost a g/f to the gaming table. This is proabbly becsue, as I mentioned, I have not brought a g/f to the gaming table. Although... it has caused friction in relationships (sorry honey, I have to go kill pretend ogre's tonight - I might get a magic sword! - I can't have dinner with your folks).
Buttercup - Lots of text here - I'll try and cut to the chase
quote:
The girls in the faire should have been trotting on the treadmill, rather than exposing yards of pale, oversized, cleavage.
Buttercup's reply:
"No different than many of the men, I would guess, yet it is socially more acceptable to denigrate women if you don't approve of their body type..."
Incognito (me): Well Buttercup, I no more approve of the men of gaming with thier large, unshaven jowls, traipsing around in green spandex leotards, than I do the women. Being signifcantly obese is a health risk, not to put too fine a point on it. I posted this comment about women becasue that's what this thread is about - I do not want you to think me a hypocrite, however.
quote:
"...I somewhat shamefully admit to being more of the 'player' type or whatever people are calling it these days..."
Buttercup's reply:
Are you saying that other people have to meet your physical standards to be treated with respect? And by 'player' do you mean philanderer? User? Or schmoozer? I honestly don't know how you mean it.
Incognito (me): I am saying if there is any aspect of life in which you show a lack of respect for yourself (phycically, intellectually, emotionally), then I will have a hard time respecting you, yes. By way of example, there used to be a gentleman in our gaming group who had a drug addiction that caused some psycological problems (agorophobia, some paranioa). I (we) eventually had to move away from him. Not without some gentle prodding, however.
I have been a philanderer, and a schmoozer. I think 'user' is a tough sell; I try to treat anyone I interact with decently (golden rule, don't you know). What I mean was, I am accustomed to going out in a social setting and meeting women. Whether it be a setting like a bar, or a setting like the supermarket. THis is not a skill I see in - ohhh - 95% of the gaming community. Hence the cartoons to this effect.
By the way, lest anyone be confused by the word 'philanderer' He is the Websters Def.: 1. to make love to someone with no intention of proposing marriage 2. to have many love affairs
quote:
"Perhaps I simply came of age during some very negative propaganda regarding gaming (late 80's)..."
Buttercup's reply:
"That's interesting. I've always thought of myself as 'cool', and I game. But this issue of worrying about what others think of D&D has come up on these boards a great deal lately, and it seems I'm in the minority since I don't really care if certain segments of society don't approve of me. "
Incognito (me): Not caring what society thinks of you, is...almost...the definition of uncool. Having 'society' approve and want to be like you would be cool. Not too many guys coming up to me and saying "Hey! You should've seen the way I took down that dragon last Friday! Power Attack and Brilliant energy weapons rock!" But I do have poeple talk about the Football game, the Soprano's, how many pints they had on Friday. And Hey don't shoot the messenger, I'm just saying that from a societal point of view, roleplaying = not cool.