Sith = Evil; Jedi = Good?

[Orius]

I think the Jedi (as an organization) are LN for two reasons:

First, they left Anakin's mother as a slave. No effort was made to buy her freedom. They wanted Anakin and that's where their interest ended. Slavery was legal on Tatooine, so why bother with freeing Shmi even if she's the mother of someone they want to induct into their order?

Maybe, but remember Shmi later was set free, and she married Cleig Lars. Maybe soon after, since Watto didn't really have a use for her. The Jedi can see into the future and may have seen that possibility.

Plus there's the whole attatchment issue. If they free her, and she goes along to Coruscant, her presence will be a distraction to Anakin as he undergoes his Jedi training.

 

[Orius]

on the flip side, however, he DID just sit around on tantooine, allowing the universe to go to hell in a handbasket, until he recieved a call for help from someone personally important to him. Nobility and sacrifice for individuals you care about on a personal level is well within the definitions of neutral, both in game terms and my personal opinion.

Ah, but there's the larger picture here. He's there on Tatooine, not just because he's hiding out, but to watch over Luke and eventually prepare him to take on Palpatine and Vader. The Empire is evil, yes, but there are people out there (like Bail Organa) who have the courage to resist Palpatine. However, there isn't anyone besides Obi-Wan and Yoda who can train Luke to use the Force.

There's that same argument near the end of Emprie, when Luke rushes off to help Han and Leia. Yoda and Obi-Wan try to talk him out of it, because they know he'll just make things worse by blundering into vader's trap. It's more important for him to master using the Force so he can take out Palpatine and Vader, because then the Empire can be defeated by the Alliance.

 

[Trainz]

In the prequels, the Jedi never talk about Jedi or the Force in terms of good, compassion, love, they use terms such as justice or balance.

That reeks of Lawful Neutral if you ask me.

Also, a Jedi can turn to the dark side without being a Sith. Sith is a long lost cult, and before that it's originally an alien race (Tales of the Jedi).

Naga Sadow, Sith

In Ep 1 they talk about Sith as if there haven't been any for centuries, but they are quite aware that Jedi can turn to the dark side, suggesting that they delt with evil dark-siders in their time.

All Sith are evil force users, but not all evil force-users are Sith...

 

[Welverin]

Ah, but there's the larger picture here. He's there on Tatooine, not just because he's hiding out, but to watch over Luke and eventually prepare him to take on Palpatine and Vader. The Empire is evil, yes, but there are people out there (like Bail Organa) who have the courage to resist Palpatine. However, there isn't anyone besides Obi-Wan and Yoda who can train Luke to use the Force.

It's also a bit hard to think it's a coincidence he happens to be so close to Luke and they even know each other to some degree, especially considering it's likely Obi-wan who brought him there in the first place.

 

[Trainz]

Plus there's the whole attatchment issue. If they free her, and she goes along to Coruscant, her presence will be a distraction to Anakin as he undergoes his Jedi training.

Which supports my argument that Jedi are neutral: a good person would have freed her nevertheless.

 

[Eosin the Red]

Pardon the intrusion,

The Jedi as seen in Epi I, II, & III are LN barring Qui Gong who was NG (IMO). They have distanced themselves from the emotions that give them the strength to endure. The sith and the dark side use Fear, Anger, & Hate – the jedi of the pre-republic try to counter these with emptiness, serenity, and oneness with the force and they lose. It is not until much later when a failing jedi student opposes fear, anger and hate with courage, hope and love that the sith are defeated.

The jedi failed because they became a neutral body. They failed because their fear of the darkside terrified them enough that they denied love, hope, and courage. Only QG possessed these traits and he was kept from the council because of it. The restoration of the balance in SW is not the simple number crunching of 2 Sith vs 2 Jedi, instead it is the abolishment of a bankrupt, soulless organization to make way for love to oppose hate, and courage to oppose fear.

That’s my opinion anyway.

 

[Trainz]

And I totally share it. Well said.