Size increase as a class ability?

[RUMBLETiGER]

Is there any ACF of a class or PrC that includes a size increase as an ability?

I'm toying with a build that uses the War Hulk (Miniatures Handbook p.22) and can meet the size requirement of Large. The base race is Shifter.

I'm not looking for a spell, power or temporary size increase, I'm looking for an actual size increase.

A feat that accomplishes this would work just as well.

 

[Remathilis]

3.0 Dragon Disciple did. Alternately; go with a Goliath or Half-Giant and argue powerful build qualifies.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

Permanency plus Enlarge Person might work. Otherwise you'll need to consult third party products and hope your DM lets you use those.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

As far as I know there are no class abilities (alternate or otherwise) besides the Goliath barbarian substitution that would change your size. Like Psi said your best bet with 1st party stuff is Permanent Enlarge Person, and pray that no Greater Dispels come your way to muck it up.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

As far as I know there are no class abilities (alternate or otherwise) besides the Goliath barbarian substitution that would change your size. Like Psi said your best bet with 1st party stuff is Permanent Enlarge Person, and pray that no Greater Dispels come your way to muck it up.

Hm... would a non-Goliath race, taking the Stoneblessed (Goliath) PrC then qualify a non-Goliath character to meet the Goliath barbarian ACF?

It could be useful to have the War Hulk's class abilities have an on/off switch Due to No Time To Think, which kills off all the mental based skills. Large Size and super STR boost while Raging, medium sized and skillful while not.

 

[ImperatorK]

Hm... would a non-Goliath race, taking the Stoneblessed (Goliath) PrC then qualify a non-Goliath character to meet the Goliath barbarian ACF?

Yes, that's the point of Stoneblessed.

There's a PrC in one of the Dragon Mags which is called Waker of the Beast. Wakers are people who are obsessed with waking up the Tarrasque and making him destroy everything. Mechanically they're becoming more and more like T, that includes becoming bigger.

 

[the Jester]

There's a PrC in one of the Dragon Mags which is called Waker of the Beast. Wakers are people who are obsessed with waking up the Tarrasque and making him destroy everything. Mechanically they're becoming more and more like T, that includes becoming bigger.

There... there is?? I had a similar prestige class for my 3.x game, the Amok One.

 

[Jackinthegreen]

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prestige_classes Waker of the Beast can be found in Dragon 296.

 

[RUMBLETiGER]

Yes, that's the point of Stoneblessed.

There's a PrC in one of the Dragon Mags which is called Waker of the Beast. Wakers are people who are obsessed with waking up the Tarrasque and making him destroy everything. Mechanically they're becoming more and more like T, that includes becoming bigger.

Yeah, I tracked down a write up of that PrC, incredibly cool except....

...you become an ex-Waker of the Beast if you spend your time doing anything except going to the location of where the Terrasque is sleeping and wake it up. That seriously restricts one's roleplay ability and storyline cooperation, even as an NPC.

 

[ImperatorK]

Yeah, I tracked down a write up of that PrC, incredibly cool except....

...you become an ex-Waker of the Beast if you spend your time doing anything except going to the location of where the Terrasque is sleeping and wake it up. That seriously restricts one's roleplay ability and storyline cooperation, even as an NPC.

Use the mechanics, ignore change the fluff? (and houserule the ex-Waker stuff)