SkyNet really is ... here?

[Theory of Games]

 

[Theory of Games]

Trad AI vs. Agentic AI:

Understanding Agentic AI Risks | CSA

Explore the risks and security challenges of agentic AI and its implications for modern organizations.

cloudsecurityalliance.org

 

[Dausuul]

Either these people are hyping a thing they know to be undeserving of the vast effort and money being dumped into it; or else - if they truly believe it - they're unabashedly amoral scoundrels.

"Yeah, it would be terrible if bad people get it, destroyer of worlds and all that, yadda, yadda. But we really, really need to hit our financial targets next quarter...."

Sam Altman is head of a company engaged in a race with half a dozen rivals, where the cost of competing is measured in the hundreds of billions. I assume that every single word out of his mouth is aimed at maximizing the amount of money he can get investors to pump into his company.

Some of the stuff he spouts -- like how AI is going to cure all disease -- is such transparent and ludicrous hype that I can't understand why anyone takes anything he says at face value.

At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he's drinking his own Kool-Aid here. It's always easier to sell this kind of crap if you talk yourself into believing it too. So... I'm going with "both of the above."

 

[Theory of Games]

The fact that Agentic AI can literally hallucinate is .... why am I the only person alarmed here?

The Next “Next Big Thing”: Agentic AI’s Opportunities and Risks - UC Berkeley Sutardja Center

Central, Intelligent Agents “In a few years, autonomous artificial-intelligence ‘agents’ could be performing all sorts of tasks for us, and may replace entire white-collar job functions, such as generating sales leads or writing code. … The implications of unleashing them on the world are likely...

scet.berkeley.edu

 

[Scribe]

The fact that Agentic AI can literally hallucinate is .... why am I the only person alarmed here?

You are not the only person, but well...

The avalanche has started, its too late for the pebbles to vote, and we are not even pebbles.

There are only a few options available to people at this point, and for me, its 'get land, get off grid*, and flip society the bird on the way out'.

There's no saving us at this point, and its all going to implode eventually.

 

[Deset Gled]

Trad AI vs. Agentic AI:

Understanding Agentic AI Risks | CSA

Explore the risks and security challenges of agentic AI and its implications for modern organizations.

cloudsecurityalliance.org

Enough already. I already hate the word "trad" as much as I can feel emotion about a word. You can't make me hate it more.

 

[The Firebird]

The fact that Agentic AI can literally hallucinate is .... why am I the only person alarmed here?

The Next “Next Big Thing”: Agentic AI’s Opportunities and Risks - UC Berkeley Sutardja Center

Central, Intelligent Agents “In a few years, autonomous artificial-intelligence ‘agents’ could be performing all sorts of tasks for us, and may replace entire white-collar job functions, such as generating sales leads or writing code. … The implications of unleashing them on the world are likely...

scet.berkeley.edu

I think the forum is split into people who (i) think AI is largely unethical nonsense and so aren't worried or (ii; a much smaller group) general AI boosters who are not that doom-and-gloom. To be alarmed you need to believe in the efficacy of these models and harbor skepticism about use cases.

FWIW I think the references you are providing are interesting reads. I've seen agentic models used for scientific hypothesis generation and validation, and I suspect to see more of this entering workflows in the near future. I know there are some start ups working towards closed loop automation--e.g., AI generated hypothesis and robotics which enable those hypotheses to be tested and improved on.

In the context of that I think the concerns these articles are raising are important.

 

[Umbran]

Some of the stuff he spouts -- like how AI is going to cure all disease -- is such transparent and ludicrous hype that I can't understand why anyone takes anything he says at face value.

If you look around, I think you'll find that significant swaths of the public have had their credulity dial turned to 11 these days.

Our collective appetite for egregious but comforting or emotionally satisfying lies is vast, and we swallow them like frogs swallow flies - without chewing them over.

 

[Stalker0]

If you look around, I think you'll find that significant swaths of the public have had their credulity dial turned to 11 these days.

Our collective appetite for egregious but comforting or emotionally satisfying lies is vast, and we swallow them like frogs swallow flies - without chewing them over.

And also I think there is a degree of separation from "super optimistic" to "AI is god".

Is the idea that AI will eliminate all disease far fetched....it is. But the idea that AI could spawn a new wave of medical discovery that could radically eliminate many diseases we deal with....absolutely.

So likely when you here from a lot of people talking that way, they aren't really thinking its going to fix all disease with a wave of the hand, but they still can be super optimistic about a "medical revolution"

 

[Stalker0]

I think the forum is split into people who (i) think AI is largely unethical nonsense and so aren't worried or (ii; a much smaller group) general AI boosters who are not that doom-and-gloom. To be alarmed you need to believe in the efficacy of these models and harbor skepticism about use cases.

And of course the third group....that actually believe AI will notably change the world, and possibly for much worse.