Sneak Attack and multiple attacks

[mcgeedis]

Here is a question about Sneak Attack and multiple attacks.

I have a Rogue who has Quick Draw and Two Weapon Fighting. Her ranged weapons are darts. If a Rogue is concealed (either hiding in shadows or invisible), and then attacks with the darts out from the shadows and both darts hit, would both darts that hit have Sneak Attack damage in them?

What if the Rogue has high enough BAB to have two attacks (+6/+1). Would both of those attacks count for Sneak Attack damage eligibility if striking from out of shadows?

I was told that only the first attack would count because after the first attack, the defender would no longer be “unaware” of the attacks. But, to me, at least Two Weapon Fighting with Quick Draw seems that both attacks would happen at the same time. But this might not be the case for multiple attacks due to high enough BAB.

Thoughts?

 

[Darklone]

Some minor quirks here. But yes: several sneak attacks per round are not only possible but common.

Surprise rounds. In a surprise round, the rogue can only throw one dart since it's a standard action (without Masterthrower...). Then she would have to win initiative to unleash a full attack action with several sneak attacks, so yes, every attack that qualifies (e.g. hits someone who lost his Dex bonus somewhere or is flanked in melee by the rogue) deals additional sneak attack damage.

Now if combat had already started and the rogue would be invisible, only the first attack would enjoy the bonus due to invisibility... and sneak attack. By the rules, there's no such thing like two attacks at once in D&D... That's the only case where only the first attack enjoys sneak attack damage. Now if the hidden/invis rogue would manage to make a Hide check with a DC of +20... to "snipe"... then she could score several sneak attacks.

"You were told...": that's a common houserule by people who think sneak attack is too strong. YMMV, in your typical D&D game it's not.

 

[billd91]

The easiest route is to just say that the first set of attacks should get the sneak attack bonus even if they aren't clearly simultaneous.
Complete Adventurer suggests that, while attacking from hiding, you should treat the target as being flat-footed with respect to the attacking rogue (even if not flat-footed to anyone else), thus warranting the sneak attack. I wouldn't remove that status until the target creature gets his action, just like regular flat-footed status at the beginning of a fight.

 

[Darklone]

The easiest route is to just say that the first set of attacks should get the sneak attack bonus even if they aren't clearly simultaneous.
Complete Adventurer suggests that, while attacking from hiding, you should treat the target as being flat-footed with respect to the attacking rogue (even if not flat-footed to anyone else), thus warranting the sneak attack. I wouldn't remove that status until the target creature gets his action, just like regular flat-footed status at the beginning of a fight.

Yupp, it makes sense somehow... and many dudes houseruled like that long ago by simply applying the surprise round mechanics to someone who "entered the combat again".

 

[Kahlenar]

"You were told...": that's a common houserule by people who think sneak attack is too strong. YMMV, in your typical D&D game it's not.

Sneak attack is so underpowered. DMs who think its overpowered dont see fighter classes power attack for full nearly enough.