So Cyberpunk 2077

[Sacrosanct]

Incidentally, everyone I know who has tried to return it with digital purchases are being told by Sony that they won't do it because it's been downloaded. So it looks like you're screwed.

Incidentally, my biggest issue is the menu interface. A floating curser is the worst thing you can do to navigate menus on a console. Breakpoint did that and it was awful. Same here. On consoles, you should be able to tab through menu options via a button, not a free floating curser

 

[MarkB]

Incidentally, everyone I know who has tried to return it with digital purchases are being told by Sony that they won't do it because it's been downloaded. So it looks like you're screwed.

Incidentally, my biggest issue is the menu interface. A floating curser is the worst thing you can do to navigate menus on a console. Breakpoint did that and it was awful. Same here. On consoles, you should be able to tab through menu options via a button, not a free floating curser

I agree, but they do at least enable D-pad selection on some of them.

It's very much not a finished game. It's a very good game, and I'm enjoying it, but it's not finished.

My own biggest frustration is that, when driving, the minimap is too low-scale to show you the upcoming turns ahead of time, so you wind up having to constantly split your attention between the map and the view ahead. They need to either zoom out the minimap when driving so that you can just glance at it occasionally to see when the next turn is coming up, or else put some navigation indicators onto the main HUD.

 

[payn]

Warning, my bug experiences have quadrupled after the massive 1.04 update.

Im 8 hours in and here are my thoughts on CP2077
Not as good a city crime sim as GTA
Not as good a body aug sim as Deus Ex
Story is not quite as good as either of those.
CP2077 is a fun game, but doesnt really impress. It's fun, but not the cyberpunk game of your dreams.

 

[Imaculata]

I remember what Shadow of Mordor was like on PS3; one of the worst ports to an older generation console I have ever seen. It was unplayable, stripped of half its content, crashed constantly, and never ran at an acceptable framerate. I imagine Cyberpunk on PS4 is a lot like that. If I get the game, it will be either on pc, or on PS5... if I get my hands on a PS5 first.

 

[MarkB]

I remember what Shadow of Mordor was like on PS3; one of the worst ports to an older generation console I have ever seen. It was unplayable, stripped of half its content, crashed constantly, and never ran at an acceptable framerate. I imagine Cyberpunk on PS4 is a lot like that. If I get the game, it will be either on pc, or on PS5... if I get my hands on a PS5 first.

One of the nice things about the game is that they did make it very clear ahead of time that if you buy it on PS4, then upgrade to PS5, you can then use the game on PS5 without buying it again. But yeah, actually getting your hands on a PS5 is the tricky part at the moment.

 

[trappedslider]

I swear i had nothing to do with that parking job or the flames...

 

[trappedslider]

Incidentally, my biggest issue is the menu interface. A floating curser is the worst thing you can do to navigate menus on a console. Breakpoint did that and it was awful. Same here. On consoles, you should be able to tab through menu options via a button, not a free floating curser

I play on my xbox, but I'm used to using the R-stick like a mouse basically. Unlike The Sims 4 or Cities: Skylines, it feels natural and easy to use at least for me.

 

[embee]

I'm not getting it for a variety of reasons.

1) Yeah - pissing off the LGBTQ+ crowd. My sib is TG. They were excited for the game until they heard about (a) the transphobic billboards ingame and (b) that a game set in a genre all about transhumanism, the gender options aren't there. Representation matters.

They had their wallet open. And this made my sib close their wallet.

2) Piss-poor optimization. Recommending a 30xx series for RT in this game is absurd. The first 30xx card didn't come out until this September and immediately sold out. You can't buy them for anything approaching a reasonable cost.

Just don't bother with the "feature" at all and focus instead on getting it to run smoothly on anything else.

3) Glitches galore. It took CDPR ages to iron out Witcher 3 for the PC. It'll take ages for this one too. Because sometimes past performance is an indicator of future performance. And shafting the last (or current depending on your POV) is supremely effed up. The PS5 came out a month ago. PS5 and XBX are having supply chain difficulties. So, realistically speaking, the only way to play on console is on PS4 or XB1-whatever.

What's the point of punishing your coders with crunch if its still going to be buggy AF on release day?

4) Seizures. They literally put the exact light pattern used by neurologists to induce seizures into the game. Not cool. I say that as someone who's brother died from a seizure.

Sorry but this game is a hard pass for me. I'll just have to settle for playing Cyberpunk Red on tabletop.

 

[CleverNickName]

@embee Yikes. I had heard some noise online about #1 on your list, but I didn't know it was that prevalent. Billboards, seriously? (To your second point, I agree, representation matters.) And #4 is inexcusable, especially if it was deliberate...photosensitivity seizures are not new in the video game industry. It's hard to believe that a studio of that size would do something that dumb, on purpose.

But it was #2 and #3 that made me pump the brakes on getting this game. I'd rather have multiple delays and reschedulings for a complete product, than deal with multiple bug fixes and patches for a rushed one. Maybe I'm just old-fashioned (or just old), but that's how I prefer to do business.

(Knowing more about #1 and #4 isn't helping, either.)

 

[embee]

@embee Yikes. I had heard some noise online about #1 on your list, but I didn't know it was that prevalent. Billboards, seriously? (To your second point, I agree, representation matters.)

Last year, they pissed off a lot of people with the ChroManticore ad, which commoditizes and fetishizes trans people. And the only way to have a character with a "female" voice is to choose the "female" body (and vice-versa for "male"). Again, one of the central aspects of cyberpunk is transhumanism. So to lock down gender like this is tone-deaf to say the least.