So I was more or less kicked out of my D&D group

[jdavis]

Well it's pretty obvious that every little thing he did was to run you off, that seems awful vindictive just for you skimming a book, wouldn't a simple "stop that please" sufficed? I get the feeling there was something else going on here. If you're friends with any of the other people in the group ask about what he said when you were not there, he had a grudge about something. If he really is just a ass well I figure that you should just stay in touch and wait a while then ask the players about starting a new game, you might find that some of them are sick of those kind of antics also. Good luck.

 

[Vysirez]

Sounds like the DM was something of a prick and I wouldnt worry to much about it. Try to find a different group or if you can't do that find something else to do until you can. Good luck.

 

[tburdett]

The DM sounds like a real jerk, but, I'd be a lot more sympathetic if I hadn't had players like you in the past.

Have you ever heard of the term 'social contract'? When you are part of a group there is an implied 'social contract', or set of rules that all people who are part of that group agree to adhere to.

Individuals who continually fail to follow these rules are generally excluded from the group. This is what seems to have happened to you. Perhaps these rules were never explained, or perhaps you just failed to pick up on them. Either way, you are out.

Here is why I have little, or even no, sympathy for you.

First, ignoring the game to read a book is pretty rude. Why show up if you aren't going to be an active participant in the game? Did you really believe that no one would mind this behavior?

Second, when the DM calls you on it, you don't own up to it. People who are unable to accept responsibility for their own actions do not do well in group situations.

Finally, your choice of Forsaker as a PrC just furthers my belief that you really don't want to fit in, or be part of the group. Choosing a class that restricts the entire groups ability to function is the epitome of anti-social behavior.

At least you'll have plenty of time to read that book now!

 

[Lord Pendragon]

C'mon now. Cut the guy some slack. At the very least, he can't be held accountable for his choice of Forsaker as a PC. He called the DM beforehand to tell him what he was playing. If the DM thought it would be a problem, he should have said something then, not stonewalled the PC in-game...

 

[Numion]

Well the group that my Rogue was apart of sells all the loot and divides it amoungst themselves I felt left out cause my Rogue helped get all that stuff but I don't get any reward.

They should've given your new character stuff for something your old character did?

 

[Fenes 2]

C'mon now. Cut the guy some slack. At the very least, he can't be held accountable for his choice of Forsaker as a PC. He called the DM beforehand to tell him what he was playing. If the DM thought it would be a problem, he should have said something then, not stonewalled the PC in-game...

That is my opinion as well, but do not forget that there are a great many people, also on this board, who think that the best way to handle any "problem" is in-game - by making the player regrett his choice by playing out all the drawbacks of his character.

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Re: Re: So I was more or less kicked out of my D&D group

They should've given your new character stuff for something your old character did?

In my last group, major loot divisions were done out of character and divided by player, not characters. This was more fair for people who had multiple characters vs one and more importantly stopped loot division from becoming a death spiral of semi in character pissyness. (the fact that this could and did happen was indicitive of the group, yes, but the guideline was still good.)

By killing off his character then deliberately not giving his new one a chance to participate, the DM was screwing him. depending on how loot division after character changes had been worked before, the other players may have indulged as well once they saw how the wind was blowing.

Kahuna Burger

 

[Bonedagger]

I encourage players to not read in front of me when I DM. Even if they are not involved in the conversation. As long as they are present I expect them to pay attention. It can be very distracting for both the DM and the active players to have somebody sitting next to them going though a book. They can read but then they leave the room. The only time I have ever throwen somebody out of my group was when we had one who didn't feel that rule should apply to him. (The type who at the same time is saying that he pays attention but often ask you to repeat yourself) He made a big scene but damn it felt good to get rid of him.

The same goes for out of game conversations. I always pay a little attention and in my style of DM'ing I'm often in character.


Nobody have to be there but if they participate I see it as my job to make sure that a single player does not ruin the game for the rest of us. I don't want to waste my time.

 

[Numion]

Re: Re: Re: So I was more or less kicked out of my D&D group

In my last group, major loot divisions were done out of character and divided by player, not characters. This was more fair for people who had multiple characters vs one and more importantly stopped loot division from becoming a death spiral of semi in character pissyness. (the fact that this could and did happen was indicitive of the group, yes, but the guideline was still good.)

By killing off his character then deliberately not giving his new one a chance to participate, the DM was screwing him. depending on how loot division after character changes had been worked before, the other players may have indulged as well once they saw how the wind was blowing.

Kahuna Burger

But it just doesn't make sense. IMO it'd be ok to, if player misses a game and his char is left behind in equipment, give him some stuff that he got during the time he missed, but giving dips on the groups hard-earned loot is another thing. And it don't make sense, did I say that already?

 

[Kahuna Burger]

Re: Re: Re: Re: So I was more or less kicked out of my D&D group

But it just doesn't make sense. IMO it'd be ok to, if player misses a game and his char is left behind in equipment, give him some stuff that he got during the time he missed, but giving dips on the groups hard-earned loot is another thing. And it don't make sense, did I say that already?

I think you made it clear it doesn't make sense to you.

I think it depends on power level and style of play. There is no need for a particular character or player to get "left behind" in terms of equipment. In this game, loot division would also sometimes happen after a few adventures where no one had the slightest idea which cave we got which scroll in etc.

if you are playing as a team effort, "the groups hard earned loot" does indeed belong to "the group" and you divide as best for the future of the group with additional concern for character concepts and in a split decision who "deserves it more".

This will not work for every group, but its not unheard of either.

kahuna burger