So what can you tell me about "Antediluvian"?

[jester47]

Actually, Conan is post deluvian and Kull is Antedeluvian.

Well, Howard has said that the time that they were supposed to be around was a far ancient time, but he also said that the hyborean age is not one of this world. The "flood" of that world was the sinking of atlantis.

But this is all open to debate.

Aaron.

 

[jester47]

double post!

 

[Staffan]

On a related note; I can't find psionic in any dictionary, and I tend to wonder why we don't just use the word psychic like the rest of the non-gaming world?

Probably because that's what Gygax used in the AD&D1 PHB, and then it just stuck around. In Mythus, Gygax seemed to have changed his mind - it says something like "the proper term for things like telekinesis and telepathy is 'psychogenic', and the word 'psionic' refers to psychogenic powers augmented with electronics."

At least I think it did, it's been ages since I read it.

 

[pfisteria]

On a related note; I can't find psionic in any dictionary, and I tend to wonder why we don't just use the word psychic like the rest of the non-gaming world?

Psionic is in the OED.

 

[Krieg]

Yes some of the authors ideas are very very unusual - but they could make for a great game setting (especially the bit about Mayan Jedi!).

Oh don't get me wrong, I bookmarked the site for future perusual & goggling.

 

[Desdichado]

Psionic is in the OED.

When was it added, I wonder? 4-5 years ago I looked for it and I didn't find it. I'm not sure what printing I was looking at, though...

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

erased

[edit - for more complete info. found via Goggle (in next post)]

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

Oh don't get me wrong, I bookmarked the site for future perusual & goggling.

Then there's Laurie Anderson's theory. From http://starling.rinet.ru/music/lauriec.htm:

A certain American sect has been looking at conditions of the world during the Flood. According to their calculations, during the Flood the winds, tides and currents were in an overall southeasterly direction. This would mean that in order for Noah's Ark to have ended up on Mount Ararat, it would have to have started out several thousand miles to the west. This would then locate pre-Flood civilization somewhere in the area of Upstate New York, and the Garden of Eden roughly in New York City.

Now, in order to get from one place to another, something must move. No one in New York remembers moving, and there are no traces of Biblical history in the Upstate New York area. So we are led to the only available conclusion in this time warp, and that is that the Ark has simply not left yet.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

This would then locate pre-Flood civilization somewhere in the area of Upstate New York, and the Garden of Eden roughly in New York City.
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So things have not changed much. Many people still consider NYC the center of civilization while others consider it a hive of scum and villany deserving of another flood.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

A fact I heard on discovery channel that really freaked me was that the ancestral 'Amazon' and 'Congo' rivers once had a common source! (back in the Pangea days) because this resonantes with the biblical description of the river that flowed from Eden and then split into four

Interesting site. I don't see how he can, say, differentiate Jewish skeletons from other humans, but hey. Such is great inspiration for gaming.

However, the crack you'll find on cable TV and in print is truly amazing. I greatly enjoy Graham Hancock, for example; he's fun, he asks some decent questions*, and he is willing to admit being wrong from time to time. But a lot of that stuff is...odd.

Just in this instance, for example...it's amazingly unlikely that the Amazon and Congo would ever have flown from the same source, since the topography of Pangaea would've been vastly different from the modern day. There may've been rivers, but they probably wouldn't've started in the same part of the proto-South America and proto-Africa plates as they do now.

Now, if/when I ever run a D&D game, I'll mine Graham Hancock and his ilk for all they're worth, and then some.

Brad

* - So, when you've tracked down what you believe to be the Ark of the Covenant, is it REALLY a good idea to ask the nice people who haven't killed you for your impertinence if you can see it? As your VERY FIRST QUESTION? And fourth? And seventh? (sigh)