Song of Ice & Fire Discussion:What do you want in the next 3 books? (SPOILERS)

[CrusaderX]

She's not undead (in the horror "walking corpse" sense). She has been brought back from the dead though (like Beric) so she's alive, but her injuries are still there.

And she's losing her POV chapters. So no, she's not really undead, but I can see her being portrayed in a really creepy way since we're no longer going to be getting inside her head. We'll just be getting the reactions from other characters.

 

[Dagger75]

I like this topic.

Theon Greyjoy- I bet he's found alive in the Dreadfort in a cage with all his skin flayed off.

Hodor- I think Bran will take over his body and use him to be the "knight" he always dreamed of being.

Sandor- He's dead

Gregor- Ohh he lives and is pretty pissed.

Arya- Trains in Bravoos as an assassin and meets up with Tyrion. Tries to kill him cause he's a Lannister. He talks to her, they join up and get into Dany's army when she goes to Bravoos.

Jon SNOW- Does not take Stannis's offer and stays and leades the Night Watch.

Jamie- Marries Brianna (sp). He will end up killing Cerci and Gregor and die in the process.

Catelyn- With the help of the Brotherhood without Banners kills the Freys one at a time.

King Tomin will actually be a pretty good King. He is loved by the people even though he is a little kid. Probably a teenager when Arya assassinates him.

Dany and her army will take over at this time and defeat the others that have crossed the wall and rule beside Jon Snow. The General of her Army Tyrion and her personal bodygaurd Arya.


PS: I agree Jaqen H'ghar is Bobba Fett of the series.

 

[Cor Azer]

I like this topic.

Theon Greyjoy- I bet he's found alive in the Dreadfort in a cage with all his skin flayed off.

A possibility... My opinion is that Martin wouldn't do something so... obvious?

Hodor- I think Bran will take over his body and use him to be the "knight" he always dreamed of being.

I think Bran might use Hodor's body again, but I think Bran is too nice to continually force his mind upon Hodor.

Sandor- He's dead

Hasn't been written yet... and even it had been, so was Catelyn. I could reasonably see the Brotherhood taking in Sandor (although I would suspect he'd leave them in short order).

Gregor- Ohh he lives and is pretty pissed.

Pissed, yes. Lives? Not so sure. The Cersei preview chapter seems to imply that Gregor is not in good shape.

Spoiler

He drank milk of the poppy so often that it now can't lessen the pain of the enhanced and drawn out poison the Red Viper used on his spear.

Arya- Trains in Bravoos as an assassin and meets up with Tyrion. Tries to kill him cause he's a Lannister. He talks to her, they join up and get into Dany's army when she goes to Bravoos.

I don't see it happening. I see Martin hinting it might happen, but I don't see it happening. I don't really dislike Arya's character, but I wonder how interesting it could be if Martin had her fail in her training to become an assassin (as many think she'll become).

Jon SNOW- Does not take Stannis's offer and stays and leades the Night Watch.

I think that's a given... although it remains to be seen how well the Night's Watch remains...

I think Stannis will abandon trying to convince Jon, and go for

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Maege Mormont, who supposedly finds Rickon Stark and tries to use him for her bid at the North.

Jamie- Marries Brianna (sp). He will end up killing Cerci and Gregor and die in the process.

I doubt it. He's got a connection with Brienne sure, but I don't think he'll drop his Kingsguard vows again, and those include "Take no wife".

Catelyn- With the help of the Brotherhood without Banners kills the Freys one at a time.

I hope so.

King Tomin will actually be a pretty good King. He is loved by the people even though he is a little kid. Probably a teenager when Arya assassinates him.

I don't think Tommen will be on the throne for very long... and I think with his young mind, he'll be confused with the Martells using his older sister Myrcella in their bid for the throne.

Dany and her army will take over at this time and defeat the others that have crossed the wall and rule beside Jon Snow. The General of her Army Tyrion and her personal bodygaurd Arya.

I don't think so. I suspect Dany will cross over around Dragonstone. Her hatred of Robert Baratheon and his fellow usurpers will cause her to let the Others swarm through most of the North (traditional home of the Starks - big supporters of Robert). If at all, her forces will meet the Others south of the Neck (around the Trident perhaps). Some nice parallels to Rhaegar might be drawn.

 

[ASH]

Well, let me start by saying that I have total faith in Martin. I think that he will end the books exactly like he should. THat said, i dont try to look for something to be in the next books because i really love them and would hate to be dissapointed. But I will say that I think that Jon is the 'hero' and I like him a great deal. I think that Dany is also a heroic character, and on the side of 'good', but that I cant stand reading her chapters. She reminds me of a Robert Jordan character.

I am looking for Rickkon to come back in to the books as an older child, we left him in the hands of a wildling, and his ferocious shaggy dog. He is on the way of becoming a very rabbid person.

The concept that Cerci will be defeated by Sansa, then sansa becomeing just like her is really a great one. That would be a great twist to the books.

I love Arya, her and the imp are by far my favorite characters, and I look for them to continue to be so. I am interested in what Catlyn is going to be doing, but I think i would have prefered it had she stayed dead.

I liked Jaq'un Hagar..I think that he is Syrios Fel, thats how he knew who Arya was, and why he was so inclined to give her the coin, and I think that we may find that out in the next few books as Arya goes through her training.

Bran, everything that happens to him is going to be awesome. His story line is so full of intersting concepts and finding more about the world of Westros that I cant help but love it. Who is cold hands...Benjen??

Jojen and Meera.. I think that we will see jojen die in the next few books, and Meera and Bran start up some sort of love intrest..

Thats about all for now.

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

Well Martin breaks all traditions and is hard to predict but here goes...

Tyrion will meet up with Dany and will design the saddles which will be used to ride the dragons. The saddle for Bran and Dancer was just too much foreshadowing not to use several books later.

Tyrion (Viserion), Jon (Rhaegal) and Dany (Drogon) will be the 3 dragon riders. Martin has already said that not all three dragon riders have to be Targaryen. Though the "Winged Wolf" image of Bran does have me thinking that I might be wrong but if one of the dragon riders is killed in battle Bran could warg into that dragon and thus fulfill the image of a "Winged Wolf". I know that a lot of people don't think that Jon needs another pet since he has two (Ghost and the raven) but I believe he's a rider. Tyrion's saying that even a dwarf can look down upon the world from the back of a flying dragon or something like that- once again foreshadowing.

Arya will be a Faceless (Wo)Man. They will be hired by someone who wants to hurt Littlefinger and Arya will be sent by them to assassinate his daughter Alanye (Sansa). That should be an interesting meeting/reunion.

Cersie will die by Jaime's "hand" when he tosses her out some window but she will grab his leg/ankle and bring him down and they will die like they were born- together her landing first but she will be holding him instead of him holding her.

Bran and Meera will hook up.

Rickon will be the wild Stark and wreak vengenence on all those that harmed his family with Shaggydog by his side. And everyone will know that he is indeed Rickon Stark because how many Dire wolves are south of the Wall? There are only 4 left and everyone knows where Ghost is.

Stannis will die fighting the Others.

I agree that Dany will fight the Others along the Trident fulfilling her vision of that battle.

The Freys will get their's and be replaced with the good Freys like Olyvar who was Rob's squire and wanted to stay with him but was not allowed. He wasn't present at the Red Wedding, either imprisoned somewhere out of sight at the Twins or elsewhere so he wouldn't warn Rob.

Tyrion will in the end be Lord of Casterly Rock, Dany will make sure of that. Tyrion btw is Martin's favorite character.

That's all for now.

 

[ASH]

Well Martin breaks all traditions and is hard to predict but here goes...



Tyrion (Viserion), Jon (Rhaegal) and Dany (Drogon) will be the 3 dragon riders. Martin has already said that not all three dragon riders have to be Targaryen. Though the "Winged Wolf" image of Bran does have me thinking that I might be wrong but if one of the dragon riders is killed in battle Bran could warg into that dragon and thus fulfill the image of a "Winged Wolf". I know that a lot of people don't think that Jon needs another pet since he has two (Ghost and the raven) but I believe he's a rider. Tyrion's saying that even a dwarf can look down upon the world from the back of a flying dragon or something like that- once again foreshadowing.

I forgot about this, and I pretty much agree with you on all of it!

 

[CrusaderX]

Great thoughts, everyone. I forgot about Meera, and I too hope that she survives and ends up with Bran.

Arya will be a Faceless (Wo)Man. They will be hired by someone who wants to hurt Littlefinger and Arya will be sent by them to assassinate his daughter Alanye (Sansa). That should be an interesting meeting/reunion.

Do you think that Littlefinger will continue the Alanye/Sansa ruse, though? Now that Lysa is gone, I expect Littlefinger to proclaim Sansa as his bride, not his daughter.

 

[KnowTheToe]

Just as long as Dany is not a hero and dies before it is all over. I just don't like her character, or her chapters

 

[Teflon Billy]

...More on Tyrion, pretty please. Maybe he could hook up with Brianne. Brains and brawn, baby!...

Well his old attempt at a pairng like that (Brains and Bronn?) wasn't exactly a smashing success for him.

I want to see more about Bronn, now that I think of it.

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

Do you think that Littlefinger will continue the Alanye/Sansa ruse, though? Now that Lysa is gone, I expect Littlefinger to proclaim Sansa as his bride, not his daughter.

Actually yes I do because she is still suspected of helping Tyrion in Joff's murder so LF will want to keep her hidden until that is resolved. Also there is supposed to be an "Alanye" chapter. This should not be one of the 2 new viewpoints, Cersie being one of them, because Sansa and Alanye being the same person but by using Alanye instead of Sansa Martin may be hinting that Sansa is continuing to lose her identy of a Stark which began with Lady's death. I read that on another message board that there is supposed to be a chapter with Alanye as the viewpoint, this may not be true though.

But until the book is done and we have it in our hands who knows what will be in the book. Even his prious readings of AFfC could no longer be "canon" because he might have changed something, but this speculation is fun and passes the time til it comes out.