Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin

[Shade]

Added the Large variety to Homebrews.

 

[freyar]

Comparing to Antaeus, I see that he's a point short in Con compared to the generic Large ones. Should we drop the generic Large gigantes to Con 19 and say that Large get no bonus to abilities?

I guess they should each get 3 special powers.

Rock throwing is for Huge gigantes as written.

 

[Shade]

Comparing to Antaeus, I see that he's a point short in Con compared to the generic Large ones. Should we drop the generic Large gigantes to Con 19 and say that Large get no bonus to abilities?

Actually, we might need to revisit Ant and Enc afterwards. Con 19 is the same as the lowly hill giant, and these guys are supposed to be "special".

 

[freyar]

Fine by me. Maybe a Large one can get 2 +2 ability bonuses, and Antaeus could put them both in Con or something.

 

[demiurge1138]

Agreed to needs more Con. Hell, more Str too.

 

[freyar]

Why don't we start by bumping the base ability array Shade had above?

 

[Shade]

That's fine by me. These fellows are supposed to be legendary, after all.

 

[freyar]

Let's boost the HD while we're at it, too. (Incidentally, it seems like a lof the the problems we're having comparing to the old Antaeus and Enceladus has to do with the fact that they're from a 1e source and the gigantes listing is 2e.) How about Large 30 HD, Huge 35 HD, Gargantuan 40 HD, Colossal 45 HD? That's closer to Antaeus and Enceladus. And the 16HD of the 2e gigantes just seems way too low for what should be an epic (or close to epic) fight.

 

[Shade]

Yeah, good idea.

How about...

Large: 30 HD, Str 32, Dex 10, Con 24, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12
Huge: 35 HD, Str 40, Dex 10, Con 28, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12
Gargantuan: 40 HD, Str 48, Dex 10, Con 32, Int 11, Wis 13, Cha 12
Colossal: 45 HD, Str 56, Dex 10, Con 36, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12

 

[freyar]

That looks much better.