Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[Shade]

I'm leaning toward CR 10, or even higher. It essentially adds 12 levels of druidic casting to a hill giant, plus DR and SR, with only 2 less HD.

 

[Cleon]

Let us drop sleet storm for an extended barkskin and stoneskin for extended command plants? Also, shouldn't it be "tree stride", not "strike"?

Suits me. I'd be tempted to replace the non-extended versions of the spells with something else - perhaps owl's wisdom to boost Will saves and spell DCs and scrying for general-purpose divination? Come to think of it extended owl's wisdom could be more useful than extended barkskin.

Oh and it should be tree stride. Twas just a typo.

That would make it:

0 - create water, cure minor wounds, detect poison, guidance, purify food and drink, resistance
1 - calm animals, entangle, faerie fire, longstrider, produce flame, speak with animals
2 - animal messenger, barkskin, lesser restoration, resist energy, tree shape
3 - cure moderate wounds, daylight, plant growth, extended owl's wisdom, spike growth
4 - air walk, freedom of movement, rusting grasp, scrying
5 - extended command plants, tree stride, wall of thorns
6 - greater dispel magic, live oak

 

[Cleon]

I'm leaning toward CR 10, or even higher. It essentially adds 12 levels of druidic casting to a hill giant, plus DR and SR, with only 2 less HD.

You know you're right, having it have less HD than its full caster level does seem rather back-to-front.

How about increasing its HD to 12 or more and make it Challenge Rating 12 or 13?

Since it can assume Huge size with Strength 29, which is neatly intermediary between a Cloud Giant (Huge, 17HD, Str 33) and a Hill Giant (Large, 12 HD, Str 25), how about making its Hit Dice right between those two giant, i.e. 15, or just double its original HD to 16.

16 Hit Dice and CR13?

 

[freyar]

Yeah, I forgot about the casting.

I see Cleon's point about the HD being pretty low. I'm not sure about going all the way to 16HD, but maybe up to 12. Anyone else?

 

[Shade]

I could go with 12 HD.

 

[freyar]

Let's stick to 12 HD, then.

 

[Cleon]

Let's stick to 12 HD, then.

That's alright by me.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Does it look worthy of CR 13?

 

[freyar]

I expect so.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Does it look worthy of CR 13?

I'm divided. It's got decent spell resistance and DR, but its attack adds and AC are pretty poor for that Challenge Rating.

Shall we make them CR12 for the time being.

You've adjusted its hits, skills and attacks for its extra HD, but it's still short two Feats.