Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[Cleon]

Augment Summoning and Power Attack?

Augment Summoning has a prerequisite of Spell Focus (summoning), which it lacks.

Spell Penetration instead?

Good point. The AC does indeed suck. Start with +7 natural at Medium, and then it will end up equal to a hill giant at Large?

I'll go along with that.

 

[Cleon]

Here's the next one to begin playing with...

DOGAI
Armor Class: 1 Magic Ability: See Below
Move: 9”
Hit Points: 25
Fighter Ability: Swordsman, 3rd Level

The Dogai impersonate a man’s wife to seduce him. But they overdo everything. Their joints are reversed, and sometimes their hands are too. In their own shape they are gross and ugly and have exceedingly large ears. They can use Polymorph, Seduction, Charm Person, and Teleport.

Originally appeared in Dragon Magazine #29 (1979).

Oceanic Creatures - The CBG Wiki
The Mythology of Oceania
Encyclopedia Mythica: Other mythologies.

Hmm...

I think they've got too good saves and fighting ability to make sense as Fey. 3HD Outsider or Monstrous Humanoid?

I'd cut down the supernatural abilities a bit, maybe to change self and dimension door as spell-like abilities. I'm a bit puzzled by the "Seduction", I don't recall that spell appearing in the 1st edition PHB or the Little Brown Books. Besides, a charm person power should satisfy all the necessary requirements.

 

[freyar]

Augment Summoning has a prerequisite of Spell Focus (summoning), which it lacks.

Spell Penetration instead?

Oh, rats, how did I miss that? My wife was thinking about taking that feat for a PC, too.

In another thread, Shade mentioned that Spell Penetration isn't always so great, since most PCs aren't going to have SR. But maybe for the leshy it would make sense. Other options are the Spell Focus feat or something melee-focused.

 

[freyar]

Hmm...

I think they've got too good saves and fighting ability to make sense as Fey. 3HD Outsider or Monstrous Humanoid?

I'd cut down the supernatural abilities a bit, maybe to change self and dimension door as spell-like abilities. I'm a bit puzzled by the "Seduction", I don't recall that spell appearing in the 1st edition PHB or the Little Brown Books. Besides, a charm person power should satisfy all the necessary requirements.

Of those two types, I'd go with monstrous humanoid. And you're probably right about the SLAs.

 

[demiurge1138]

Monstrous humanoid works for me. They're something like goonier doppelgangers. Although the SLAs suggest fey or outsider, and I'm a big fan of native outsiders...

 

[freyar]

I can almost see native outsider, if they're a servant of someone maybe. But I'm just not getting quite the outsider vibe. Dunno.

 

[Shade]

I'm fine with Spell Penetration for the leshy, and let's retain Augment Summoning as a bonus feat, since they were quite summons-focused. Updated.

As for the dogai, I think I'm convinced by native outsider. Their reversed joints (and sometimes hands) immediately make me think of rakshasas, which happen to be native outsiders.

 

[freyar]

The leshy looks good.

I had noticed the comparison to the rakshasa, so native outsider is fine. The dogai don't seem quite as clever and, well, competent as rakshasas, though. In fact, they sound slightly comical.

 

[Shade]

Here are the writeups from the other sources I linked above...

"dogai (Torres Strait Islands) - evil shapeshifters appearing as beautiful young women; head can swivel, limbs bend backwards"

"Dogai (Melanesia): A malignant spirit who tried constantly to frustrate human enterprise by making crops fail, scaring fish away from nets, etc. Some places he was a male god, in other places she was a female goddess."

"Female mischief-making spirits of the western islands of the Torres Straits (Melanesia). They dress are ordinary women but have hideous features, long, skinny legs, and huge ears. One of these ears is used as a bed, the other functions as a blanket. The dògai are sometimes able to assume the shape of beautiful women and in this guise deceive human beings. They are also able to transform themselves into animals, rocks, trees, and even constellations. They play tricks on people, but are easily outwitted. However, on some occasions they kill boys and girls and as such naughty children are threatened by their parents with stories of the dògai."

 

[freyar]

Definitely a generous version of alternate form, the SLAs given above with possibly others related to crop failing, and I'd think a low Int.