Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the oozes

[Cleon]

The original Subterranean Puddings (all of them) are immune to edged weapons and took 1/4 damage from blunt weapons.

That suggests something like half damage from weapons plus DR X/bludgeoning in 3E terms.

What do you think?

EDIT: I've red-pencilled it in to the Working Draft.

Alternatively, we could go for DR X/bludgeoning, plus "Half damage from slashing and piercing" like a Tiny swarm.

 

[Shade]

The original Subterranean Puddings (all of them) are immune to edged weapons and took 1/4 damage from blunt weapons.

That suggests something like half damage from weapons plus DR X/bludgeoning in 3E terms.

What do you think?

EDIT: I've red-pencilled it in to the Working Draft.

Alternatively, we could go for DR X/bludgeoning, plus "Half damage from slashing and piercing" like a Tiny swarm.

I think I like the latter best. Black puddings were immune to all weapon damage in 2e, but in 3e bludgeoning is allowed, while the other types initiate its split ability.

 

[Cleon]

I think I like the latter best. Black puddings were immune to all weapon damage in 2e, but in 3e bludgeoning is allowed, while the other types initiate its split ability.

Curiously enough, in the 2E Monstrous Manual it says "blows from weapons divide them into smaller puddings" but says nothing about the blow not doing any damage. The 1E and 3E entries for Black Puddings are explicit about blows from weapons not doing any damage.

I'll update the Working Draft. How much DR/bludgeoning would you like?

 

[Cleon]

What about the natural armour proposal?

 

[Shade]

I'll update the Working Draft. How much DR/bludgeoning would you like?

10?

What about the natural armour proposal?

It seems a bit of overkill with the immunity to most weapons, and then DR to the remaining.

 

[Cleon]

10?

It seems a bit of overkill with the immunity to most weapons, and then DR to the remaining.

I thought we were doing half damage from slashing and piercing. If it has immunity to slashing and piercing the DR 10/bludgeoning would be pointless, since it's a 10 point penalty on nothing.

Should we change it to immune to slashing and piercing, half damage from bludgeoning?

I suppose I can live without the NA.

 

[freyar]

Make it half damage from slashing and piercing. Makes the most sense to me.

 

[Cleon]

Make it half damage from slashing and piercing. Makes the most sense to me.

Half damage from slashing and piercing plus DR 10/bludgeoning is a lot weaker than the original, which is immune to slashing/piercing like the 3E Black Pudding.

I'd prefer immunity to slashing/piercing and a DR that's effective against bludgeoning - maybe DR X/—? - like Shade describes in his latest post.

 

[Shade]

Half damage from slashing and piercing plus DR 10/bludgeoning is a lot weaker than the original, which is immune to slashing/piercing like the 3E Black Pudding.

I'd prefer immunity to slashing/piercing and a DR that's effective against bludgeoning - maybe DR X/—? - like Shade describes in his latest post.

Yeah, I like this, maybe 6/-?

 

[Cleon]

Yeah, I like this, maybe 6/-?

That'd be OK by me. It seems wrong to make its DR tougher than the hardness 8 of stone, but wood-level toughness feels about right.

Freyar?