Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the oozes

[freyar]

Yes, that would be fine, sure.

 

[Cleon]

Yes, that would be fine, sure.

Seems we're agreed!

Updating the Working Draft.

 

[Shade]

So no natural armor, and keep the Dex poor?

 

[Cleon]

So no natural armor, and keep the Dex poor?

Yes, we might as well stick to the same AC factors as the SRD Black Pudding.

Updating the Working Draft.

 

[freyar]

This looks good. Is it ready for skills and feats?

 

[Cleon]

This looks good. Is it ready for skills and feats?

It's still missing a number for Spell resistance.

 

[Shade]

It's still missing a number for Spell resistance.

MR 20% translates to CR + 5.

 

[Cleon]

MR 20% translates to CR + 5.

If we had settled on the Challenge Rating that might mean something!

*Ahem*

We've got CR 8 penciled in, one higher than the SRD Black Pudding.

That feels about right, and would become Spell Resistance 13 using CR +5.

Alternatively, a 20% failure for a CL of 11 works out to Spell Resistance 16.

So, shall we use one, t'other, or something in-between like SR 14 or 15?

 

[freyar]

Hmmm, let's just go with SR 14. Now skills and feats?

 

[Cleon]

Hmmm, let's just go with SR 14.

I'll update the Working Draft with SR 14, although I suspect Shade might change it to CR +6 later on...

Now skills and feats?

Ranks of Hide 13, Move Silently 5, Listen 8?

Its Dex and Huge size gives it a hefty Hide penalty.

We could give it mostly stealthy-related feats to compensate - e.g. Stealthy, Skill Focus (Hide), Skill Focus (Move Silently) - or add a racial bonus to Hide and/or Move Silently. I'd favor something like a racial bonus to Hide checks when it subterranean environments, since it's "easy to spot in the open".

So, how about this:

Skill Ranks: Hide 9, Move Silently 9, Listen 8
Skills: Climb +11, Hide +2*, Move Silently +10, Listen +8
Feats: Improved Initiative, Reckless Offense [?], Stealthy, Weapon Focus (slam)
Skill bonuses: A dense pudding has a +4 racial bonus on Hide and Move Silently checks. A dense pudding has a +8 racial bonus on Climb checks and can always choose to take 10 on a Climb check, even if rushed or threatened.
*A dense pudding has a +8 circumstance bonus to Hide checks in underground caves.
[A Gray Pudding is even better at ambushing, so methinks we'd better give the Gray a +12 circumstance bonus and SF (Move Silently)]