Special Conversion Thread: Moldvay's Undead

[demiurge1138]

Loumara would be flavorful, but decidedly not OGL.

 

[freyar]

Well, we could make it a pseudo-loumara. There was a demon lord that we basically made an obyrith. Make the mechanics basically the same, but don't use the trademarked name. You know the strategy.

 

[Shade]

Indeed. Incoporeal demon that grants its hosts paralyzation attack and some undead qualities?

 

[freyar]

Sounds right to me. To simplify the possession, do you want to rip from ghost's malevolence or go look up whatever loumarae do?

 

[Shade]

Loumara reference the Demonic Possession rules in FC1, which aren't OGL. So the ghost route may be the way to go, with a sidebar mentioning they can be treated as loumara (and thus use those rules) if used with FC1. Thoughts?

 

[freyar]

From flipping through FC1, I noticed that the dybbuk (1 of only 2 loumara) don't really use the full possession rules. They just take over a corpse. So, to simulate the possession rules, let's steal from malevolence for the spirit-ghoul to become a "rider" and grant the victim a second save to resist transformation (successful save means immune to transformation for 24 hours). So we'd essentially be writing a statblock for the incorporeal fiend and a small template for the transformed victim.

How's that work?

 

[Shade]

That'll probably work.

Use ghould ability scores for the spirit-ghoul? Of course, we'll need to add a Con score since it isn't undead.

 

[freyar]

Yeah, that would work. Or do you want to do a simple template? Just turn the victim into a native Outsider and tack on some special abilities, maybe a stat boost or two.

 

[Shade]

Don't you think we need the possessing creature so it can be fought off/prevented?

 

[freyar]

Oh, absolutely! I meant the template for the victim as opposed to just using a modified ghoul.

Now I'm a little confused. Did you want to use the ghoul stats for the incorporeal outsider?