Special Conversion Thread: Moldvay's Undead

[freyar]

Hehe, I didn't mean because of the text color, just that you'd written so many cool abilities I couldn't keep up!

Fast healing looks pretty good, nice vampire variant.

 

[Shade]

Nice job.

Updated.

I don't think we need the Evil subtype, as bodaks lack it.

Skills: 40
Do we want any of the vampire or vampire spawn racial skill bonuses?

Feats: 3
Do we want any of the vampire or vampire spawn bonus feats?

Organization: Solitary or x (2-10) [x="oppression"?]

Treasure: Standard?

Advancement: 8-12 HD Medium and see text?

 

[freyar]

Looking at dispel evil, you can banish evil (extraplanar) creatures, not just creatures with the evil subtype, so I agree with Shade.

Let's give it Hide, Intimidate, Listen, Spot for ranks? I'd agree to vampire spawn racial skill bonuses (+4) except for Sense Motive, I think. Probably bump to +8 for the greater version.

 

[demiurge1138]

I agree with freyar's assessment of skills. Some of the vampire bonus feats would be appropriate--Lightning Reflexes and Imp. Initiative?

 

[freyar]

Those bonus feats seem good. For the regular feats, maybe Power Attack, Cleave, and Combat Reflexes? Something melee-focused anyway.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Weight? They are extremely bloated, apparently.

CR 6-7?

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Weight? They are extremely bloated, apparently.

CR 6-7?

The skills and feats all look good to me.

As for the weight, if I remember the legends they only get bloated if they've fed a lot, they are be like hollow dried-out wineskins or empty drums if they have lacked victims.

So, perhaps something like this:

A lesser vrykolakas is as tall as it was in life. They are often bloated on the blood of their victims and can weigh up to twice what they did in life, but a vrykolakas that has not fed for a long time shrivels like a dried-out wineskin and sounds as hollow as a drum, such a creature may only weigh half what it did in life. An average male human vrykolakas may be anywhere between 90 and 360 pounds, having weighed 180 pounds when alive.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

Weight? They are extremely bloated, apparently.

CR 6-7?

Not sure about the line "They feed upon terror and fright rather than blood." I think I'd prefer "as well as blood", since they are also enthusiastic haemovores.

I've just noticed a bigger problem though - we've forgotten to say how many levels of energy drain it inflicts!

Oh, and I'd think Challenge Rating 6 would be ample.

 

[demiurge1138]

There vryolak are apparently not blood-feeders. I'm alright keeping them that way.

 

[Shade]

One negative level like the vampire spawn?