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Spider-Man 2...and 3, 4, 5, & 6

Melkor said:
I don`t understand how it could earn much more money than Star Wars: AOTC, which had fantastic visuals , trully a work of art.
One major reason is that it was seen equally by men and women (something very few action/superhero/geekfest movies ever do; in fact, I can't think of a single one other than this). That alone accounts for the tremendous push it had.

The reason Spider-Man is so appealing? Spider-Man is one of the great iconic superhero concepts, hands down. We only have a very few of them, really. A few great, great concepts that endure over time.

Superman, the pinacle of perfection. The ideal all men strive for. The idea of a man so powerful he can move mountains, but so noble, so unselfish he uses that power for good.

Batman, a man who forsakes any attempt at a normal life so that others can have that chance.

Spider-Man, the everyman that anyone can relate to. The sea-change in comics that Spider-Man ushered in is still being felt today. The normal man, with a normal mans concerns and needs and desires, who gets these tremendous powers. He uses them for himself at first, which is what most normal people would do. Then he aids his own uncle's death, and sees that 'with great power comes great responsibility'. That one phrase is such a powerful one, such a defining thing, that it's driven 40 years worth of stories. Peter is just cursed, cursed with a power he didn't want but cannot deny, because denying the use of it means he spits on his uncle's memory and his own part in the man's death.
 

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WayneLigon said:
Superman, the pinacle of perfection. The ideal all men strive for. The idea of a man so powerful he can move mountains, but so noble, so unselfish he uses that power for good.
"Smallville notwithstanding." ;)

At first, I was skeptical they could air a show about pre-Superman Clark Kent. But I'm surprised they did it well. At least now that they minimized the "kryptonite villain of the week" plot device.

WayneLigon said:
Batman, a man who forsakes any attempt at a normal life so that others can have that chance.
Well, his flaw is his obsession with justice. I'd like to be a fly on a wall and listened in on his therapy sessions.


WayneLigon said:
Spider-Man, the everyman that anyone can relate to. The sea-change in comics that Spider-Man ushered in is still being felt today. The normal man, with a normal mans concerns and needs and desires, who gets these tremendous powers. He uses them for himself at first, which is what most normal people would do. Then he aids his own uncle's death, and sees that 'with great power comes great responsibility'. That one phrase is such a powerful one, such a defining thing, that it's driven 40 years worth of stories. Peter is just cursed, cursed with a power he didn't want but cannot deny, because denying the use of it means he spits on his uncle's memory and his own part in the man's death.
I think of the above, that poignant statement made by Parker's uncle makes Spidey's tale a fable to live by. Every Spidey fans knows about that one credo by heart. Heck, it's a lot better than the "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" catchphrase.
 

Ranger REG said:
Every Spidey fans knows about that one credo by heart. Heck, it's a lot better than the "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" catchphrase.

In your opinion. I prefer Supermans quotes, by far, myself.

As for Spider-Man, he's a great hero, but what I always loved about him was just lacking in the movies. That is, his humor. Where was the wise cracking webslinger who would mock his adversaries as he pounded them into dirt, make sarcastic jibes about his life, and just generally make you laugh? They attempted a little of that in the movie, but it just fell flat, which is why I will not be going to see the sequel.
 

Why did the Spider-man movie open better than Attack of the Clones? Because AotC had far more expectations to live up to than Spider-man did.

AotC was hyped beyond all human capability to live up to - as was Phantom Menace. People who were looking for the character-driven story from AotC that fell flat, hit a home run in Spider-man. Both movies involved mentor-student relationships and finding true love - but comparing the two was like comparing Romeo and Juliet and West Side Story. One many people could relate to, the other many could not, despite the fact that they're pretty much the same story.

Well, that, and Peter Parker won, while Anakin Skywalker lost. :)
 

Henry said:
Why did the Spider-man movie open better than Attack of the Clones? Because AotC had far more expectations to live up to than Spider-man did.

It did? Sorry, not here, as after Phantom Menace my expectations vanished like Han shooting first. I expected Attack of the Clones to be visually stunning, wonderfully costumed, and to be very weak in dialogue and story.
 
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DragonOfIntellect said:
In your opinion. I prefer Supermans quotes, by far, myself.
"Up, up and away"? :lol:


DragonOfIntellect said:
As for Spider-Man, he's a great hero, but what I always loved about him was just lacking in the movies. That is, his humor. Where was the wise cracking webslinger who would mock his adversaries as he pounded them into dirt, make sarcastic jibes about his life, and just generally make you laugh? They attempted a little of that in the movie, but it just fell flat, which is why I will not be going to see the sequel.
Your loss. To me, Spidey is not all about his wisecracks. If that's the case, AH-nold could have been Spider-Man. :lol:
 

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