Spiderman 2 Spoiler Thread

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Actually, there may have been a special edition that put this back in, but the theatrical version of the film had him in it, but his rescue of a small girl was cut for time. I may rent it and double-check to be sure, but I remember him mentioning the fact that he was in it, but his "rescue" was cut, making this one all the sweeter.

Now that I think about it...I seem to remember some thing about it being cut for one reason or another. But I know this...when I saw Spidey 1 on Opening Day, Stan Lee was doing the saving.

 

[jester47]

1. I thought it was cool that Aunt May came around and actually thought well of spiderman. I was getting tired of her (in comics and cartoons) always thinking that spidey was a bad person.

2. The scene on the train would have been a great opportunity to tip the hat to the FF paper bag spidey. When he is on the front a convenient bag be blowing by. Contrived yes, but very spiderman.

3. I have a friend who is currently working on his PhD in stabilising plasma for fusion reactions. He probably got a hoot out of this one.

Aaron.

 

[Umbran]

I'm pretty sure in the past when he has gotten sick his powers have been funky.

Not quite, but close. Spidey goes swinging through the streets of NYC in winter, wearig nothing but blue and red tights. He gets colds and flu fairly regularly.

Have you ever had a really bad cold or flu? 102-degree fever style? It doesn't matter how strong you are, or how fast, you're just figgin' miserable and distracted, and weak. It can be hard to even see straight and walk, much less realize your spidey-sense is tingling when you're in the middle of a coughing fit.

Oh, and completely separate - there's a long, long tradition of Spidey running out of web-fluid at bad moments in the comics. While the movies don't use mechanical web-shooters, it is nice to see the reference.

 

[Taelorn76]

Not quite, but close. Spidey goes swinging through the streets of NYC in winter, wearig nothing but blue and red tights. He gets colds and flu fairly regularly.

I am sure he has his Fuit of the loom Spidey thermals on underneath.

 

[Lazybones]

I thought they were making the point that his loss of his powers was psycho-somatic, due to his feelings of doubt and lack of commitment to being Spiderman. I had thought that it was due to his abuse of his body (lack of sleep, stress, poor food, etc), but the doctor scene really presented the idea that it was all in his head.

I really enjoyed the movie, but here's my nits:

1) The doctor scene. I was of the impression that a 5 second examination from any medical professional would reveal that there was something "up" with him. How could a doctor miss all of the effects of his genetic mutation?

2) The car-through-the-cafe-window scene. Given that:
a) Ock doesn't know he's Spiderman, and
b) The car would have crushed him if he had NOT been Spiderman, and
c) Ock wants to interrogate Peter;
How can this scene make sense?
Also, at the end of that scene he throws Peter against the wall with enough force to shatter brick. This would have killed a non-Spiderman Peter Parker.

3) Fusion experiment. Okay, we're going to do this great unheralded experiment in fusion power. If something goes wrong, BOOM. So where should we do the test... Oh, I know! How about downtown Manhattan!

 

[Mog Elffoe]

I really enjoyed the movie, but here's my nits:

1) The doctor scene. I was of the impression that a 5 second examination from any medical professional would reveal that there was something "up" with him. How could a doctor miss all of the effects of his genetic mutation?

'Cuz in the movies Spidey's powers are also all in his head. They're manifestations of his psionic powers.

 

[WizarDru]

1) The doctor scene. I was of the impression that a 5 second examination from any medical professional would reveal that there was something "up" with him. How could a doctor miss all of the effects of his genetic mutation?

A doctor only can work with the tools he's given. When I go to see my doctor, he's not going to be checking for retractable web-shooters and skin adhesors when he's checking if Peter has a cold. We don't know about things like blood pressure and the like...and really, that wasn't he point of the scene. Of course, judging by the tie-dye t-shirt, I'm not thinking that Pete's doctor is what you'd call 'conventional'.

2) The car-through-the-cafe-window scene. Given that:
a) Ock doesn't know he's Spiderman, and
b) The car would have crushed him if he had NOT been Spiderman, and
c) Ock wants to interrogate Peter;
How can this scene make sense?
Also, at the end of that scene he throws Peter against the wall with enough force to shatter brick. This would have killed a non-Spiderman Peter Parker.

It doesn't make sense if you assume that Octavius in complete control of his limbs and is thinking rationally. I got the impression, from the visuals in the scene, that Ock threw the car before he even got there. I suspect he didn't intend to throw it that hard, but he didn't much care after the fact. The same applies to tossing Peter after the fact, and burying him. Either his limbs weren't being very cooperative, or he just doesn't have a subtle setting on those puppies.

3) Fusion experiment. Okay, we're going to do this great unheralded experiment in fusion power. If something goes wrong, BOOM. So where should we do the test... Oh, I know! How about downtown Manhattan!

Hey, this is Oscorp. Saftey concerns obviously aren't at the top of the list of concerns. Look at their previous projects.

I'm pretty sure the intention was that Peter's problems with his powers were pscyhosomatic...but it could also be used for the classic storyline involving the Lizard: Dr. Connors becomes one of Spidey's confidants when Spidey's powers start going haywire, and that would dovetail nicely with a lot of storylines.

 

[Umbran]

1) The doctor scene. I was of the impression that a 5 second examination from any medical professional would reveal that there was something "up" with him. How could a doctor miss all of the effects of his genetic mutation?

Last I was at a doctor, a complete genetic workup wasn't part of the standard exam. Nor was a test to see how much I could bench press, or exactly how fast my reflexes were. I've never seen a physician check for borderline precognative abilities. The ony thing one might think is that the doctor may have seen the pinhole at Peter's wrist where his webs emerge. How much do you want to bet that looks rather like a mole or a pimple or something?

2) ... How can this scene make sense?

By assuming that Doc Ock isn't esactly sane. Which he isn't.

3) Fusion experiment. Okay, we're going to do this great unheralded experiment in fusion power. If something goes wrong, BOOM. So where should we do the test... Oh, I know! How about downtown Manhattan!

As far as we are aware, only two people know about and recognize the explosive potential - Octavius (who is certain his calculations are correct such that it won't happen), and Parker, who isn't in a position to question Octavius' judgement or do anything about it.

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

2) The car-through-the-cafe-window scene. Given that:
a) Ock doesn't know he's Spiderman, and
b) The car would have crushed him if he had NOT been Spiderman, and
c) Ock wants to interrogate Peter;
How can this scene make sense?

All this assumes that Doc Ock tossed the car through the window.

But in the movie, the car flies through the window, everyone is pretty shocked by that, and then we get the "Tyrannosaurus approaching like in Jurassic park" effect--and Doc Ock appears from about 1/2 a block away, around the corner from a building.

I don't think Doc Ock threw the car.

 

[Richards]

Then who did?

Johnathan