Spiderman 2 Spoiler Thread

[nikolai]

I'm afraid it didn't work for me. It was too schmaltzy, and too much like bad soap opera. I know the personal life stuff is what works for some people, in which case more power to you, but it didn't do anything for me. I'm not saying it was a bad film, but I don't think it was good either.

 

[The NightWalker]

I really hope Sam does the right thing in the next movie, and not use a goblin-like-character as the main villian. I know the spiderman saga very well, and love the story. As well I understand harry's maddness/descent into darkness as an important part of the story... But having another Glider character this soon... would just be repetitve and lame.

I really hope they also introduce Brock as a Major player too... This may be the marvel Fanboy in me roaring... But.. I want to see Venom soon, dangit! I don't care if Sam cannot stand the character! If he wants to make the big bucks he will use him... Venom just has to many fans and he is one of.. if not "THE" most powerful and interesting villian spiderman has.

I'm not saying use Venom in the next flick, but At least introduce the black fan-boy favorite custome! Maybe Have spiderman devolpe a hulk-like-rage as one of his major conflicts. That way, it would open the show for piss on villians like shocker or Rhino.

The only other factor to this plea.. Is that for the love of the "True Belivers" not introduce both venom and carnage in the same flick! Oh... I'd also enjoy seeing The Lizard.

 

[KenM]

I have heard this about spidey 3:

Spoiler

Spiderman will be teamed up with Iceman and Firestar, it will be called Spiderman and his amazing friends. Made you look.

 

[The NightWalker]

That's almost... worthy of a rim shot...

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

I'm probably one of the few that'd rather not see Venom any time soon...

Well, I'd rather not see him at all, if it can be helped.

Venom is, by its nature, over the top. This is much easier to handle in a comic book rather than a movie. Comic book readers will (mostly) accept completely out-of-left-field alien symbiotes better than movie-goers, especially since they've built a very New York centric universe in the first two movies, which I think is a a perfect way of grounding the character and the story. That's something you need in a comic book movie. There's only so much suspension of disbelief you can ask of the average person. To bring Venom into this context, they'd have to completely re-write the backstory, which would make it a completely different character, anyway.

Besides, Spidey is at his best when dealing with real life. The movies have entirely borne this out. And the fact that they've stuck to a human-centric story is one of the reasons they've been so successful and been able to land actors like MacQuire. The mere presence of Venom pushes the entire story into a different realm.

 

[Staffan]

Venom is, by its nature, over the top. This is much easier to handle in a comic book rather than a movie. Comic book readers will (mostly) accept completely out-of-left-field alien symbiotes better than movie-goers,

They could use the origin from Ultimate Spider-Man for the symbiote, if they wanted to:

Spoiler

Parker Sr. was working on a cure for cancer when he died, and the result was a symbiotic costume that strengthens and vitalizes the wearer. Peter found out, used it for about half an issue when he noticed it was also making him more violent, and then rejected it.

Plus, they've mentioned Eddie Brock a few times, so they've at least planted the seeds there.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

They could use the origin from Ultimate Spider-Man for the symbiote, if they wanted to:

Spoiler

Parker Sr. was working on a cure for cancer when he died, and the result was a symbiotic costume that strengthens and vitalizes the wearer. Peter found out, used it for about half an issue when he noticed it was also making him more violent, and then rejected it.

Plus, they've mentioned Eddie Brock a few times, so they've at least planted the seeds there.

OK. That's a LOT better than the canon origin.

So I'm falling back to my back-up position: Venom is a stinky chowder-head.

 

[Umbran]

If he wants to make the big bucks he will use him...

Funny. Looks like he's makin' the big bucks without Venom so far.

Venom just has to many fans and he is one of.. if not "THE" most powerful and interesting villian spiderman has.

One of the more powerful villains, sure. Though Spidey has been up against virtually everyone in the Marvel Universe at one point or another. But as for interesting... well, I just don't see it.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

No Venom for me, and please no Carnage. I'd much rather see a Harry Osborn GG, or Hobgoblin. But with luck the actor that plays Harry will be around for another movie. They can have him try to have Spidey killed with another villian, the Lizard, the Scorpion, or some other classic foe, only to realize at the end that he has to do it himself and then he takes the formula and that would lead into #4. Where the Osborne-Spidey saga is finished for good with Harry's death or redemption. Then in #5...

 

[Ferret]

This movie is my all time favourite. I loved the bank fight with all the coins spalshing, and the....all of it. But the train scene was epic. EP-IC!

Some problems I had was at the end when Ock reforms, to quick. "Uh.. oh yeah I'm a mad scientist. Best go sacrafice myself." Ok that was flippant but it seemed quick, and sill that he was talking, no reasoning to the arms.

But I loved the cafe scene

What I'd like in the next fil is for Harry to try and denie that the gobo was his dad, and try to redo the goblin suit. Make it say....orange He does however start to strain over the visions of his dad. Also because he is nograt scientist he brings in Doc conners to try and fix up the Serum. However in a lab accident (blatent negligence by Harry, not carring about conner) Conner arm gets cut off. Parker is with him when he does the lizard DNA thing.

Meanwhile Parker is under strain perhaps he kills one of the thugs he faces, and all the villians he locked away (flash backs or small clips of him just after beating rhino etc) and he begins transforming. Cue Man-spider. Also if that tall blonde keeps making passes, and MJ thinks he's exploiting his superhero thing she leaves.

Now we have the back story with harry, Man-Spider vs the Lizard, two friends animal sides unleashed on each other. Maybe some very back story of astronauts, maybe even the hobgob suit funded for space use. Also Harry doesn't seem straped for cash, even though he talks about wasted money, having nothing etc. He gets the tritium, he still has his mansion. Not just a house.