Spire of Long Shadows Spoilers - Tanglefoot+Silence and WoStone Beatdown

[HeapThaumaturgist]

What would everybody think the effect would be of casting Silence on a Tanglefoot bag and using the TFB to either pelt a spellcaster or just splop sticky-bomb style on a ceiling or pillar?

What about casting Silence on a single grain of sand and plopping it in a bottle of sand and shaking it up and using it as a grenade-type weapon?

--fje

 

[InVinoVeritas]

That's a DM's call.

The act of throwing the tanglefoot bag, from a mechanical point of view, consumes the bag, thus leaving no bag for the spell to be attached to. However, from a realistic point of view, that's not what happens. So, check with your DM.

Now, a silence spell on a thunderstone, on the other hand...

 

[Mistwell]

I like the tanglefoot bag idea.

As for the sand...what for? Why not just cast it on a rock near the target, or a tile below them, or a doorknob near them?

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

I like the tanglefoot bag idea.

As for the sand...what for? Why not just cast it on a rock near the target, or a tile below them, or a doorknob near them?

Pre-combat prep. Basically we know they're there, we've come to a stalemate several times and had to TP out. They have sorcerers with Dispel Magic and Enervate that just sort of pound out all of our spell slots in protected areas that are difficult to reach without special defensive spells ... defensive spells that get removed by multiple targeted dispels at a time in a round.

So we're looking for ways we can pre-cast a bunch of silence spells and get them into position rapidly with the double-chuck TWF rogue without them just picking up the silenced object and hucking it into a pit or back in our faces ... I.E. either have it stuck to them or to the wall or on a grain of sand.

If they were undead I'd drop the sand into a bottle of holy water so he could get some damage in during Operation: Stop Dispelling Us.

--fje

 

[BlackSeed_Vash]

I personally do not think placing a silence spell on a gain of sand is a good idea. Too much risk in a wind, whether magical or mundane, blowing it in the wrong direction. If your DM allow it, you might try placing a small rock with the Silence spell on it inside the Tanglefoot bag. That way even though the bag is considered destroyed, the rock is stuck to what/whoever it hits.

 

[MarkB]

Combine the two ideas. Cast the silence on a single grain of sand, then drop the grain into a tanglefoot bag. The grain of sand isn't consumed on impact so you don't lose the spell, and the glue adheres it invisibly to the target so he can't get rid of it.

 

[Hammerhead]

I think it's fun to shoot spellcasters with silenced arrows.

 

[mvincent]

The act of throwing the tanglefoot bag, from a mechanical point of view, consumes the bag, thus leaving no bag for the spell to be attached to.

I don't believe that breaking something dispels any spells on it. Example: if you cast silence on a door (or a light spell on an arrow), then break it in half, the spell should still be active (similar to how buff spells are still technically active on dead characters).

 

[Nail]

HeapThaumaturgist, what you want are a few Rings of Counterspelling. Put in the appropriate spell (Dispel Magic or Greater Dispel Magic) and Ta-Da! no more Dispel Magics.

It even works for area Dispel Magic. Cool, huh?

 

[MarkB]

I don't believe that breaking something dispels any spells on it. Example: if you cast silence on a door (or a light spell on an arrow), then break it in half, the spell should still be active (similar to how buff spells are still technically active on dead characters).

Then what happens when you take the two halves sixty feet from each other? Where is the silence spell?