Spoilers Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

[Gradine]

It’s a common joke at our table that as soon as Sisko gets to go to the Mirror Universe he immediately has sex with his coworkers with no consequences. Says a lot about him.

Especially when he otherwise acts completely uncomfortable about the idea of being romantically/sexually connected to either of them in the normal universe. I mean, power/workplace dynamics in relationships has never been treated at all seriously in basically any iteration of Starfleet, so that's not really an issue either. Here Sisko is playing a role and his life and a lot of people's lives depend on him being convincing, ...but on the other hand it's also very clear he is enjoying all of this (bonus points for getting to punch Bashir in the face). Other high point of this episode is when you find out Rom was a real one the entire time. Just an absolute bro in any universe.

Cardassia is indeed a fantastic setting (so much more so than Bajor, sorry not sorry Bajor) because it’s such a rigid and controlling culture that goes through about three Chinese dynasties’ worth of upheaval in 7 years. And it’s cataclysmic and horrible (and mostly Dukat’s fault) but it’s fascinating. Other worlds in ST could use this kind of deep dive, Romulus for instance.

I feel like there was one really good episode in TNG about a defecting admiral or something, but yeah we really don't get much of a deep dive on Romulus at all (and then Abrams decided to just blow it up)

 

[pukunui]

Not only is Keiko fine but she could honestly do way better than Miles. And I like Miles! Molly is also the most adorable.

Honestly, Keiko is one of my faves. I really wish she'd gotten more screen time. Miles is a lovable dork, and their relationship just feels so real to me in the way that many other TV relationships don't. That episode where Miles can see Keiko is unhappy because the school has closed and so he sets about trying to find things for her to do until he finally realizes that he needs to let her go be a botanist for real instead of just play at being one was a real gem for me.

 

[Gradine]

Can we also talk about how the real, original Miles O'Brien is just straight dead? And he straight gets replaced by a version of him from two and a half hours into a slightly different future? And the writers (through Julian) are just like "Just don't think about it"? Does this never get brought up again? Because it is deeply disturbing

 

[overgeeked]

Can we also talk about how the real, original Miles O'Brien is just straight dead? And he straight gets replaced by a version of him from two and a half hours into a slightly different future? And the writers (through Julian) are just like "Just don't think about it"? Does this never get brought up again? Because it is deeply disturbing

Probably because something similar happens to him every third episode. He doesn’t have time to think about that particular trauma as he’s too busy dealing with the latest.

 

[trappedslider]

Can we also talk about how the real, original Miles O'Brien is just straight dead? And he straight gets replaced by a version of him from two and a half hours into a slightly different future? And the writers (through Julian) are just like "Just don't think about it"? Does this never get brought up again? Because it is deeply disturbing

just like the replacement for Harry Kim

 

[jian]

Probably because something similar happens to him every third episode. He doesn’t have time to think about that particular trauma as he’s too busy dealing with the latest.

Also, from a certain point of view (the scientifically correct view) it happens every time someone gets transported. People in the 25th century have to not think about a whole lot of things that make their world work.

(For all I know, warp cores shatter one baby universe per second in order to function; if they did, I’m pretty certain that every spacefaring species in the universe would have decided Not To Think About It.)

Watched Ties of Blood and Water yesterday; it hit much harder than it did 25 years ago because it’s all about regrets about your relationships with your parents and taking care of them as they get old and die.

(What’s weird is that it’s the first time Weyoun is introduced as a recurring character; that feels much later than it should be.)

In the Cards was better than I remember and has some good Jake protagonism. It’s a really good palate cleanser and has some great Weyoun time as well and generally great comedy.

 

[Ryujin]

just like the replacement for Harry Kim

The two Crash Test Dummies of Starfleet.

 

[Ryujin]

Also, from a certain point of view (the scientifically correct view) it happens every time someone gets transported. People in the 25th century have to not think about a whole lot of things that make their world work.

There's a whole episode of "The Outer Limits" based on that concept. "The equation must be balanced."

 

[BookTenTiger]

Can we also talk about how the real, original Miles O'Brien is just straight dead? And he straight gets replaced by a version of him from two and a half hours into a slightly different future? And the writers (through Julian) are just like "Just don't think about it"? Does this never get brought up again? Because it is deeply disturbing

My theory is that every time someone gets transported, their traumatic memories get cleaned up and sanitized.

 

[Gradine]

just like the replacement for Harry Kim

The original Harry Kim really doesn't get to get promoted