[+] Star Trek Discovery (Fan) Thread

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
This is designated a [+] thread, so you can use the other thread to talk about how much you hate Discovery. This thread is for fans who want to take about what's happening in the show.
 
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Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Important question: when will Spock shave off his beard?

Since Anson Mount is only contracted for one year, I'm guessing Pike leaves at the end of this season. That'll be a shame, as I really like him. He's more Kirk than Kirk!

What are your current prevailing theories? What's (who is) the Red Angel?

Is Section 31 dead now? Their HQ is basically a tomb. I assume they have a few ships out there, but I don't get the impression they have a fleet or anything.

That minefield... could they have shot the mines?

I loved the fistfight on the space station. There was one moment where it went a little too John Woo for me, but otherwise it was a really well shot, well choreographed fight. One thing Star Trek has always suffered from is the most godawful, slow, wooden fistfight choreography. This was really good.
 

lowkey13

I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Important question: when will Spock shave off his beard?
Oh. So .... I think it's funny.

That said ....

Remember the whole "mirror universe" thing. Spock with a goatee thing?

Seems like a shame to not even use that. ;)

Since Anson Mount is only contracted for one year, I'm guessing Pike leaves at the end of this season. That'll be a shame, as I really like him. He's more Kirk than Kirk!
I would pay cash money to watch Anson Mount in several more seasons, or in his own spinoff. So perfect. Probably the best addition to Season 2.

Side note- I actually thought Lorca was interesting in S1. Just (SPOILERS)

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It would have been better if Lorca was just damaged, and an example of the "end justifies the means" and so on INSTEAD of being EVIL EVIL mirror universe.

Complexity, and all that.
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What are your current prevailing theories? What's (who is) the Red Angel?
I had been going for Spock. And then I thought, hey, maybe it's Burnham? Because it's all about her (JK, I like her, but there was that reference, and it would make sense?), but now ... dunno? Maybe a different member of the Disco?


Is Section 31 dead now? Their HQ is basically a tomb. I assume they have a few ships out there, but I don't get the impression they have a fleet or anything.
No. I think that there is an issue with the AI taking over, but Section 31 will always be there, causing problems. Seriously, you think Star Fleet would learn their lesson one of these times.


That minefield... could they have shot the mines?
I'm assuming they would swarm at that point.

I loved the fistfight on the space station. There was one moment where it went a little too John Woo for me, but otherwise it was a really well shot, well choreographed fight. One thing Star Trek has always suffered from is the most godawful, slow, wooden fistfight choreography. This was really good.
Agreed.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
I would pay cash money to watch Anson Mount in several more seasons, or in his own spinoff. So perfect. Probably the best addition to Season 2.
And Anson Mount starring Pike Enterprise with Spock aboard. It would be so good! Basically it would be TOS, but with modern filming.

Yeah, I would absolutely pay money for that.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Is Section 31 dead now? Their HQ is basically a tomb. I assume they have a few ships out there, but I don't get the impression they have a fleet or anything.
Well, they can't be *completely* dead. Section 31 first appears in DS9. So, they survive in some sense at least long enough to try to recruit Dr. Bashir.
 

MarkB

Hero
What are your current prevailing theories? What's (who is) the Red Angel?
I have a feeling it'll turn out to be Tilly, but I'm not sure why I think that.

It could also be Stamets. They established his ability to perceive non-linear time, which could be a very useful talent for the Angel.

Is Section 31 dead now? Their HQ is basically a tomb. I assume they have a few ships out there, but I don't get the impression they have a fleet or anything.
Well, they can't be *completely* dead. Section 31 first appears in DS9. So, they survive in some sense at least long enough to try to recruit Dr. Bashir.
Logically, it would make sense for them to be working through how Section 31 went from being a legitimate, if unconventional, arm of Starfleet in this era to the nigh-mythical entirely-covert entity it had become by DS9. Current events seem like a perfectly reasonable stepping stone along that path.
 

Hussar

Legend
Well, considering they're launching a Section 31 show, it would be hard for it to be dead. But, I can see the show being about Section 31 trying to root out this AI Control. Would backfill a LOT of canon about ST really. As in why AI is barely used by Star Fleet and virtually no robots or androids (Data excepted).

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Red Angel is Burnham, but, I rather hope not. It's the easy guess and would explain why it's so linked to Spock, but, I know right now the howling we'd here from folks if it's true.

And, [MENTION=88539]LowKey[/MENTION], I too share your views of Lorca. I actually didn't like how his arc ended.

Additionally, I would LOVE a Pike/Spock Star Trek. We need to start a petition. A prequel 5 year mission!!!!

And, again, I would just like to say, Wow, this show is freaking GORGEOUS.

Hopes for season 3:

1. They go with a fairly low stakes, more episodic season with short story arcs - 1-3 episodes each - of various short stories around the Trek universe. Some exploration stuff, some larger picture stuff, that sort of thing. I would like to see that.

2. Delve into the some of the lesser known races in the show - the Gorn, the Tholians- that sort of thing.

3. Maybe something is discovered in the alien probe that died, all that information it dumped, that leads to a season long mission to retrieve whatever Macguffins have been scattered around.

Just some thoughts.
 

Aeson

Adventurer
There was a movement to save The Orville where they encouraged people to mail jars of pickles to Fox. Maybe we can start a mailing campaign for a Pike/Spock series. What should we mail? Spock ears? Enterprise? Discovery is 10 years before TOS. How many years until The Menagerie? We'll have until then for a show.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
I think Anson Mount leaving was already confirmed. Unfortunately, apparantly also Rebecca Romjin was only contracted for this year. I was kinda hoping "Number One" might be the next Captain.

While I'll miss Anson Mount, so far CBS has had a good hand in casting Captains for the show. Michelle Yeoh for the Shenzou, Jason Isaacs and Anson Mount for the Discovery. And they were all pretty well written Captains (except Lorca's Make the Terran Empire Great Again stuff). So I am optimistic they'll find a good canidate for the next season as well.

Regarding the Red Angel theory - the suit's form reminded me a bit of Tilly, but of course, that doesn't have to mean much.

If I remember things correctly, Spock tried a mind meld but wasn't able to gather much/anything? No one of the established crew has telepathic ability or special anti-telepathic training. I suppose Burnham's weird mind-connection to Sarek could count, but it seems if it was that, it might actually be something Spock could recognize.
Maybe it's Zora - of course, where did she get a humanoid body? It's not like they are randomly floating through space...
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Until Game of Thrones returns, this and Gotham are the two shows I really look forward to. I watch Discovery at the very first opportunity every Friday.

I appreciate shorter seasons as there’s less filler, but sometimes I wish a show could be longer.
 

Janx

Adventurer
It was good.

I called it on AI Gone Bad when the admiral stated they send everything to control and they been locked out for weeks. It's Mass Effect all over again :)

The fight scene even had a double-fist slam by Burnham if I recall.

I bet they keep the beard because it helps fuzzy out the differences between Nimoy and this actor.

I would have loved it if they'd reshot the snippets from Talos 4 with the current actors. I realize it was an homage to the original, but it would have tightened things up visually (and probably been fun to make).

I bet it'll be Burnham as the red angel (she knows where Spock will be to go visit). Or it'll be old-spock while galavanting around space-time after Romulus goes boom (or some such). Or it's the real Captain Lorca, floating like Kirk in the in-between.

We also don't see much of Hugh. He's been funky modified, maybe he's got spore-drive powers
 

MarkB

Hero
I bet it'll be Burnham as the red angel (she knows where Spock will be to go visit).
The only reason I don't think it'll be her is because the Red Angel helped the young Spock to save Burnham. Going back in time for her own sake feels out of character.
 

Aeson

Adventurer
The only reason I don't think it'll be her is because the Red Angel helped the young Spock to save Burnham. Going back in time for her own sake feels out of character.
I think this was addressed in tonight's episode.
 

Hussar

Legend
Well, just watched the latest. Very interesting. More of a character piece than anything. Nice story, interesting dilemma. Maybe not the most exciting episode, but, then again, watching Michael Yeoh do Crane Kung Fu is always worth a watch. :D
 

Mustrum_Ridcully

Adventurer
Pike certainly lives the Starfleet ideals.

Discovery's shuttles seem to definitely move at the speed of the plot - they make a big point to mycelium jump the DSC to Boreth, but the shuttle flies to the Section 31 ship with regular warp drive. Well, maybe the ship was already en route to intercept the Discovery at Boreth when the crew started to fight against Control?
 

MarkB

Hero
Pike certainly lives the Starfleet ideals.

Discovery's shuttles seem to definitely move at the speed of the plot - they make a big point to mycelium jump the DSC to Boreth, but the shuttle flies to the Section 31 ship with regular warp drive. Well, maybe the ship was already en route to intercept the Discovery at Boreth when the crew started to fight against Control?
Maybe speed wasn't the issue - it was more that a tiny shuttle flying out of Klingon space is less likely to be a diplomatic incident than a whole starship flying in towards one of their holy sites.

Talking of which, all those Section 31 ships (plus the Enterprise) are going to look an awful lot like an invasion force to the Klingons.
 

Hussar

Legend
And, isn't there a D7 class cruiser sitting RIGHT THERE? It's not like the Discovery is alone. I kinda wonder if that's going to get "forgotten" about in the next episode. Or, heck, since they spent all of last season doing it, why not dial up the Spore Drive and get the heck out of dodge? It's not like they have to stay.
 

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