Star Trek Strange New Worlds, what did you think?


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Morrus

Well, that was fun
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They patch that up by remarking that every time Pike saves himself Spock dies. Apparently the Klingon monks looked over such futures.
Tom B
Yeah, there's no way around it. If Pike doesn't go through with it, Spock suffers it instead.

Thus the whole 'I owe you a debt' conversation, and Spock's motivations in The Menagerie finally making sense!
 

Mort

Legend
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He broke the prime directive several times. In Star Trek IV when Kirk is put on trial, they say he violated 9 directives, but list only 6. In Amok Time he straight out defies orders in order to save Spock. In A Private Little War Kirk again defies Starfleet orders, even noting that he is doing so in his log. And there's a bunch more. He obeyed regulations and orders unless he felt he knew better and the situation required him to violate those orders or regulations.

Plus, to the time cop guys (when they show up on Deep Space Nine) Kirk's name is practically a swear word.

Kirk knew the book inside and out -but, as you said, he violated it whenever he thought his way was better.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Plus, to the time cop guys (when they show up on Deep Space Nine) Kirk's name is practically a swear word.

Kirk knew the book inside and out -but, as you said, he violated it whenever he thought his way was better.

To Kirk, rules were like the regulation Starfleet uniform.

Sometimes* ... you just need to break them.

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*Sometimes being approximately 50% of all episodes.
 


Plus, to the time cop guys (when they show up on Deep Space Nine) Kirk's name is practically a swear word.

Kirk knew the book inside and out -but, as you said, he violated it whenever he thought his way was better.
Well, that seems to describe every Captain character we spend any amount of time with, though. Pike, Picard, Sisko, Janeway...

And I think Starfleet is okay with that, because they know their handbook is a good start, but you don't know what you'll meet out there and you have to adapt. If you violate the handbook because you didn't know better, bad, you violated the handbook because it didn't fit the scenario.

Hunting that Romulan Bird of Prey in Balance of Terror was also a perfect example - Kirk asked for permission, but he didn't get a response by Starfleet in time due to the distance. Their response - after the dust cloud had already been spread wide - was to give him authority to hunt that ship down.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
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Hunting that Romulan Bird of Prey in Balance of Terror was also a perfect example - Kirk asked for permission, but he didn't get a response by Starfleet in time due to the distance. Their response - after the dust cloud had already been spread wide - was to give him authority to hunt that ship down.

"Look, my fellow Admirals, we know our orders can't reach Kirk before he has to act. He knows it. He's going to do whatever he darned well pleases. Given that, we might as well authorize what we know he's going to do anyway. Saves us the trouble of court martial, if you ask me."
 




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