Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

Umbran · Sep 12, 2021

doctorbadwolf said:
A red herring isn’t disrespectful.

That as a red herring would be. Whether tools are good or bad is generally situational.

Ryujin · Sep 12, 2021

I could certainly stand a little deep dive fan service by naming a character Jonathan Richard Raintree. If we're going back to just prior to TOS, might as well.

ART! · Sep 12, 2021

Ryujin said:
Most definitely, though I'm thinking that it's going to be something like what I've read previously (either in this thread or elsewhere) about how a significant percentage of modern people can trace their lineage back to Gengis Khan and one of his hundreds of children. (... 8 percent of men across 16 different ethnic populations in Asia ..." - Source: Genghis Khan DNA & Descendants)

Yeah, for now I'm assuming La'an is a descendent of Khan, and has had to deal with and overcome people's reactions to that her whole life. It's not their fault their ancestors were eugenic superhumans.

I figure La'an will have one or more enhanced abilities, but probably not intelligence?, since we have Spock and Number One in the "walking computer" department. There are other kinds of intelligence, of course, and it would be neat to see that played up - like being great at "reading" people, for instance. There's room there to explore neurodivergence, but that exists with Spock and Una, too, I guess.

Morrus · Sep 12, 2021

ART! said:
Yeah, for now I'm assuming La'an is a descendent of Khan, and has had to deal with and overcome people's reactions to that her whole life.

Trying to remember the Khan TOS episode -- was he well known, or did they have to research who he was?

ART! · Sep 12, 2021

Morrus said:
Trying to remember the Khan TOS episode -- was he well known, or did they have to research who he was?

I think once they confirmed his identity from historical records, everyone was like "oh, that guy!"

MarkB · Sep 12, 2021

Morrus said:
Trying to remember the Khan TOS episode -- was he well known, or did they have to research who he was?

As I recall, they knew about the Eugenics wars in general, but had to have one of the history specialists on the crew provide the specifics.

And then she turned out to have a romanticised view of the time period, and was easily seduced to Khan's side, aiding in his takeover of the ship. Though to be fair, the seduction seems to have been two-way, as he ended up marrying her.

I seem to recall there being an Enterprise episode or two about other enhanced humans. I can't remember the details, but I think it starred Brent Spiner, and may have drawn some link between the Noonian Singh and Noonian Soong lineages. Time to dig up some episodes on Netflix.

Ryujin · Sep 12, 2021

ART! said:
I think once they confirmed his identity from historical records, everyone was like "oh, that guy!"

I seem to recall they said that records were pretty scarce from the time during and just after The Eugenics Wars, so not a lot of specific information was known. They had some records, however, it wasn't the sort of thing that was exactly common knowledge. The comments about how "several dozen of these supermen had gone missing" at the end of The Eugenics War hints that there wasn't a lot of information about the individuals, apart from the usual cursory historical mention.

Ryujin · Sep 12, 2021

MarkB said:
As I recall, they knew about the Eugenics wars in general, but had to have one of the history specialists on the crew provide the specifics.

And then she turned out to have a romanticised view of the time period, and was easily seduced to Khan's side, aiding in his takeover of the ship. Though to be fair, the seduction seems to have been two-way, as he ended up marrying her.

I seem to recall there being an Enterprise episode or two about other enhanced humans. I can't remember the details, but I think it starred Brent Spiner, and may have drawn some link between the Noonian Singh and Noonian Soong lineages. Time to dig up some episodes on Netflix.

A group of episodes. They used it to try and explain the altered looks of the Klingons, as well as introducing a group of Eugenics War embryos, that Soong had raised to maturity. At the end of the last episode Soong started talking about changing his line of research to cybernetics.

Aeson · Jan 21, 2022

May 5th is the premiere date. Mark your calendars. They also announced there will be a 2nd season. Paramount is going all in on Star Trek. All of the Trek shows were renewed for another season. Picard's 2nd season hasn't premiered yet, and it's been renewed for a 3rd.