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MarkB

MarkB

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pukunui said:
New shows announced!

Obi-Wan Kenobi: live action, starring Ewen McGregor as Obi-Wan and Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader; begins 10 years after Episode III
*Given the timeframe, I hope they don't mess up the idea that Obi-Wan and Vader haven't seen each other in a long time when they meet on the Death Star in Episode IV.
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I wonder if he'll try to do the voice, or if they'll dub it as usual. James Earl Jones is getting on a bit now.
pukunui said:
Do you suppose that's what they mean by "event series" re: the Lando show?
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"Event series" to me sounds like it's a highlights reel of the major events of Lando's life, rather than a story told over multiple episodes.
 

doctorbadwolf

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Morrus said:
20 years works just as well as 30 years. It's not like Vader said "I haven't felt that presence since he chopped me up on Mustafar". There's only two lines it has to work with, and 20 years will do that just fine:

"A presence I haven't felt since...."
"When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

As long as when they meet in the TV show it's clear that Obi Wan is still wiser than Anakin, and Vader leaves having been a bit schooled, it works.
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True. As well, Obi-Wan wasn’t the least bit put off by Vader’s appearance, knew all about him being more machine than man, etc.

That doesn’t need explaining, but an encounter post-Mustafar would make sense given the above.
 

doctorbadwolf

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle

Umbran

Umbran

Mod Squad
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AcererakTriple6 said:
Yes, I know, but they are announcing all of them at the same time.
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Zardnaar said:
Share price went up. Wonder if Disney sells some.
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I am sure there's an economic driver to such a huge announcement.

For obvious reasons, Disney has taken a real drubbing this year - so much of their revenue was driven by people going to see movies in theaters, or going to the parks. Setting the expectation that they still have tons of desirable content to offer is intended to mitigate that, I am sure.
 

Umbran

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Morrus said:
20 years works just as well as 30 years. It's not like Vader said "I haven't felt that presence since he chopped me up on Mustafar". There's only two lines it has to work with, and 20 years will do that just fine:

"A presence I haven't felt since...."
"When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

As long as when they meet in the TV show it's clear that Obi Wan is still wiser than Anakin, and Vader leaves having been a bit schooled, it works.
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Agreed. Luke and Leia are born at the end of Ep III. This is ten years later (so, the kids are 10 years old). Another 10 years can pass before Ep IV, so it can be a decade between encounters.

It is also entirely possible that they don't actually meet - Vader can appear as a driving force in the distance. For example, if he learns that his kids might be alive, or that someone kills off Darth Maul. Vader can send people out to find them, and Obi Wan has to lead them a merry chase away from the kids....

Ewan MacGregor was the best thing about Ep I-III, so I'm happy to see him reprise the role. I hope they give him a great story.
 

Z

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Umbran said:
I am sure there's an economic driver to such a huge announcement.

For obvious reasons, Disney has taken a real drubbing this year - so much of their revenue was driven by people going to see movies in theaters, or going to the parks. Setting the expectation that they still have tons of desirable content to offer is intended to mitigate that, I am sure.
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Before the announcement their stock price was back to its 52 week high, and they have enough cash on hand to lose this much for more than a decade. I don't think they've taken a "real drubbing". I just should have held it after getting a smallish gain......
 

Umbran

Umbran

Mod Squad
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Zaukrie said:
I don't think they've taken a "real drubbing".
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Stock price is not everything. In fiscal year 2019, they had a net income of about $10 billion. For 2020, that became a net loss of nearly $3 billion.

That not "made less money". That's "gone form massively profitable to losing billions". That's a drubbing. One they can handle, yes, but 2021 going to be similarly bad for its first half (because we aren't getting everyone vaccinated before June, realistically). So, setting up an expectation that it'll be okay in the long run, because they have got the stuff everyone wants to watch all lined up, is a decent strategy.
 

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Zaukrie

New Publisher
Good points, and we are off topic, sorry.

Excited for some of these, not interested in others. I really wish (though I'm open to changing my mind) Darth wasn't in Obi Wan.
 

Rabulias

Rabulias

Adventurer
I also like to think that Obi-Wan kept an eye on the Empire's doings (He knew about pilots hanging out in Mos Eisley. Why would he be talking to pilots that travel to the core worlds unless he was getting news from them or making occasional trips?). Even if he stayed entirely on Tatooine, I think he would have gotten some account or a HoloNet report about the Emperor's strongman, Darth Vader. Knowing the name from the Jedi Temple security holos, and knowing the state he left Anakin on Mustafar, he could infer that Vader survived and connect the dots between Vader's appearance and his being "more machine than man."
 

Zardnaar

Zardnaar

Legend
Umbran said:
Stock price is not everything. In fiscal year 2019, they had a net income of about $10 billion. For 2020, that became a net loss of nearly $3 billion.

That not "made less money". That's "gone form massively profitable to losing billions". That's a drubbing. One they can handle, yes, but 2021 going to be similarly bad for its first half (because we aren't getting everyone vaccinated before June, realistically). So, setting up an expectation that it'll be okay in the long run, because they have got the stuff everyone wants to watch all lined up, is a decent strategy.
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This plus they were 50 billion in debt before the pandemic.

Even with vaccines I doubt Disney has recovered by this time next year.
 



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Enevhar Aldarion

Hero
Morrus said:
20 years works just as well as 30 years. It's not like Vader said "I haven't felt that presence since he chopped me up on Mustafar". There's only two lines it has to work with, and 20 years will do that just fine:

"A presence I haven't felt since...."
"When I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."

As long as when they meet in the TV show it's clear that Obi Wan is still wiser than Anakin, and Vader leaves having been a bit schooled, it works.
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There are only about 20 years in between episodes 3 and 4. Luke is 18-20 years old at the start of episode 4. So this takes place about half way between the two movies and 5 years before the events in Rebels.
 

Morrus

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Enevhar Aldarion said:
There are only about 20 years in between episodes 3 and 4. Luke is 18-20 years old at the start of episode 4. So this takes place about half way between the two movies and 5 years before the events in Rebels.
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Sure. That doesn’t change anything I said.
 






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