Star Wars Spoilers Thread [Spoilers]

So here's my review: 100% a Star Wars film which belongs with the original trilogy.

It's a transitional film, but it does it well. The new generation is really good.

I think the major death was kinda signposted a bit. You knew it was coming long before it happened. I felt worse for Chewie, but he, Rey, and BB8 make a great team.

Is this the first Star Wars film where nobody gets their hand cut off?

Luke lives in Ireland, eh?

Question: WHY was there a map to Luke, and why was it split into two? I feel like I missed something. For that matter, why a map and not just some coordinates? Seems like a random puzzle set up for the sake of it.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Weeks, with the undivided attention of a Jedi Master with eight hundred years of experience training Jedi. After which he knows a handful of tricks and is wildly outclassed by Vader. Sounds about right to me.

that works for you, great. For me, the transformation has always been a handwave that didn't really make sense.

Look at two of the most popular shows - Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead. Both pretty grim.

Yep. Also, scrolling through various lists of most popular shows last year, mostly dark stuff. And then there's the walking dead, sons of anarchy, breaking bad, scandal, i mean seriously other than sitcoms and supergirl and the flash...I can't think of anything happy on tv.

 

[Morrus]

I think you just really dislike quippy dialogue, and that is skewing your perceptions.

And I think you're wrong on both of those two theories.

As for superhero flicks, Man of Steel. The Nolan Batman crap.
Superhero movies are definitely not free of grimdark.

What, 4 films over a period of 15 years? One every 4 years, on average?

But meh. I've gone and gotten myself into an argument I have no interest in again. I seem to keep boring myself to sleep doing that...

 

[billd91]

that works for you, great. For me, the transformation has always been a handwave that didn't really make sense.

Handwave?!? That's not a handwave, that's a Training Montage™! And as we all know, any amount of training or gadgeteering can be accomplished for the necessity of a plot with a Training Montage™.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Handwave?!? That's not a handwave, that's a Training Montage™! And as we all know, any amount of training or gadgeteering can be accomplished for the necessity of a plot with a Training Montage™.

lol That's a good point.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

And I think you're wrong on both of those two theories.



What, 4 films over a period of 15 years? One every 4 years, on average?

But meh. I've gone and gotten myself into an argument I have no interest in again. I seem to keep boring myself to sleep doing that...

Yeah, pretending you've no interest in a topic once the discussion isn't going your way really is a bad habit.

It's ok, though. We all have a few of those.

I, for instance, am terrible at just rolling my eyes and scrolling past.

srsly, though. you said a thing that suggested that superhero movies were a counter argument to the idea that movies are more grimdark these days, so I pointed out that there are also grimdark superhero movies.
That's not hard to understand, right?

 

[Herobizkit]

To clarify, I wasn't commenting on grimdark in Marvel movies (Supes and Batman hold the prize atm, both DC, and that's kinda their jam as anti-Marvel), but in all of media over the past decade or so.

The media's need to be dark and edgy outweighed the quality of stories they told.

 

[ccs]

I posted this in another thread but I'll say it again. Hate how Rey just knew the force and could use a lightsaber against a guy who was training for a long time. I'll all for female power but this seemed too much.

So I guess you missed the sub-title of this episode?
You know; "The Force Awakens"
Tell me, where do you think the Force is awakening?

 

[Maxperson]

So I guess you missed the sub-title of this episode?
You know; "The Force Awakens"
Tell me, where do you think the Force is awakening?

Up and coming force sensitives that need to be trained.

 

[Guest 85555]

It was absurd that with no training or knowledge, she just up and dominated the storm trooper. Competence implies skill and she had none.

The truth is we don't know what her level of training might be until we have more background information on her. It is entirely possible she was trained at a very young age before they left her on that planet. Also possible a force Awakening is some kind of instant and intuitive awareness of how to use force abilities. I do agree it is something the filmmakers are going to want to explain in the next two movies, but my reading of the seen is it was intentionally presented as a mysterious event we are meant to wonder about. If it turns out they just did it for plot reasons, I will be less impressed, but it is still a highly enjoyable movie and Rey was a great character in my view. Definitely more enjoyable following her and Finn around on their adventures than Anakin in the prequels.

 

[Jhaelen]

So I guess you missed the sub-title of this episode?
You know; "The Force Awakens"
Tell me, where do you think the Force is awakening?

Actually, I thought the sub-title was a bit misleading, and said so immediately after watching the movie for the first time. I had been expecting something on a much wider scale, not just a single person becoming Force-Sensitive.