Stargate SG-1: Season 9 7.29.05

[Storm Raven]

And I'm seeing some Rodenberry influence in the whole plot too.

In that case, everything that is good about SG-1 will be gone within weeks.

 

[Volaran]

Is it just me, or do the Auri's high level followers look light they could have stepped right out of the psionics handbook?

 

[Viking Bastard]

In that case, everything that is good about SG-1 will be gone within weeks.

Because it hasn't been Star Trekkian in the past? It's the most Star Trekkian non-Star Trek show I can remember!

 

[aceofgames]

A lot of people are, I suspect, are predisposed against SG-1 right now. They drop O'neill off the roster, and *suddenly* they think its going to fail.
Thats pretty negative. SG-1 is still defining itself as a series/franchise. Just because cast changes occured before other shows ended (i.e., DS9). Enough people who've seen the new season seem to like it.
Sooo maybe SG-1 is good for another year or so.

 

[Storm Raven]

Because it hasn't been Star Trekkian in the past? It's the most Star Trekkian non-Star Trek show I can remember!

No, it is an anti-Trek in virtually all the ways that matter.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Really? It's not as preachy and bit more gray but it sticks pretty well to the formula.

I'd rate it with DS9 in it's Trekkiness.

When I think anti-Trek I think Lexx or Farscape.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

In that case, everything that is good about SG-1 will be gone within weeks.

Hold on there buddy.

PLEASE, do not mistake BERMAN for RODENBERRY

that type of mistake is almost insulting to the entire genre of science fiction, not to mention to a star trek fan.

 

[Storm Raven]

Hold on there buddy.

PLEASE, do not mistake BERMAN for RODENBERRY

I wouldn't. Both are silly in their own ways. Rodenberry's "perfect people" civilization that permeates the beginning of ST: TNG is just as grating as anything that Berman ever did. Even TOS is chock full of terrible stuff (the Vulcan's "logic based" civilization, the "half white, half-black" people, the sunny "perfect Federation" mantra, and so on).

that type of mistake is almost insulting to the entire genre of science fiction, not to mention to a star trek fan.

It isn't insulting to "the entire genre of science fiction", just to that sliver of it that is represented by Star Trek. It's insulting to Star Trek, which, in all of its forms is permeated with various types of awfulness. If fans choose to be insulted because the flaws of their beloved show are exposed, that's their problem, not mine.

 

[Storm Raven]

Really? It's not as preachy and bit more gray but it sticks pretty well to the formula.

Other than the "exploring planets with a small team of people", there aren't many similarities.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

Other than the "exploring planets with a small team of people", there aren't many similarities.

But there's more.

The similarity i was pointing out was Rodenberrys penchant for using Star Trek as a vehicle to tackle the social issues of the day.

Star Trek was more then a sci-fi drama. It was a social message.

Stargate is starting to tackle some serious philosophical issues in this season. They're quite likely diving into the middle of a crusade, and more then once free will was mentioned in the 3rd episode of the season.

Free Will, Perspective, Worship, Religion...
These are things that SG1 has never directly delt with. It was a sci-fi show that stuck to gadgets and aliens and exploration. There was more stories dealing with politics then anything else.

But now its delving into those areas. THAT is what i ment by saying I saw some Rodenberreryian influence.

Gene Rodenberry was more then Star Treks creator (not to mention Andromeda, and Earth Final Conflict).

He was a philosopher. One of the things that unites Star Trek fans so tightly is the message behind the "vulcan logic, and halfwhite/black aliens" and what not.

When you look at TOS, you have to look at it from the perspective of someone living in the Era that it aired.

But i'm getting on a tangent here.

Bottom line is. SG1 is starting to deal with some very mature and difficult topics that people struggle with every day.

That means the writing needs to be more intelligent, more sharp, and not just more of the same. A lot less cheeze.

I for one like these changes.