STARGATE UNIVERSE #1 & 2:AIR/Season 1/2009

[Hand of Evil]

If it was conjectured by one of the characters (anyone know who or at what time in the show - I would like to know who said it...

Rush said it.

But the idea of the waiting starship, or the starship in situ, does have a number of problems that will also need to be addressed. Like if the ship is only visited rarely then why was the life-support operational just coincidentally when the humans boarded (unless it was being tested or prepped to receive a crew, and if so, then tested by whom, and where is that crew)?

My thoughts on this is that the ship was contacted, turned on life-support and dropped out of FTL to receive the crew. Once crew is on board, back to mission. Crew then looks at stuff, tells the computer, do what they can then gate back to the planet.

I also feel that the ship should have first generation, low-level replicators on board. They just do not have the supplies for repairs or have not been turned on!

Rush also said there were a number of robot ships sent out ahead of the ship to seed planets with gates. Figure this will tell us how humans get out there, the ship is just a stepping stone.

 

[Jack7]

Rush said it.

Thanks, it figures. I suspect he either knows a lot more than it appears, has already thought about a number of likely possibilities, or already had some idea of where the gate would lead.

I also feel that the ship should have first generation, low-level replicators on board. They just do not have the supplies for repairs or have not been turned on!

Rush also said there were a number of robot ships sent out ahead of the ship to seed planets with gates. Figure this will tell us how humans get out there, the ship is just a stepping stone.

That, or the ship itself has AI. I did consider the replicator idea, and thought it possible regarding machine part repair, general maintenance, and maybe even creating furniture whenever needed. The cameras (Kinos) made me think about the replicators.

If they do have replicators then for some reason they are not functioning properly or are primitive as you suggest, or otherwise they would have already repaired the damaged shuttle. Maybe they have to be purposely programmed or directed for each task. Like the Kinos apparently have to be.

If they do have them and can get them to work then that will possibly solve their atmosphere/life support problem. Well, back to work for me.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Thanks, it figures. I suspect he either knows a lot more than it appears, has already thought about a number of likely possibilities, or already had some idea of where the gate would lead.




That, or the ship itself has AI. I did consider the replicator idea, and thought it possible regarding machine part repair, general maintenance, and maybe even creating furniture whenever needed. The cameras (Kinos) made me think about the replicators.

If they do have replicators then for some reason they are not functioning properly or are primitive as you suggest, or otherwise they would have already repaired the damaged shuttle. Maybe they have to be purposely programmed or directed for each task. Like the Kinos apparently have to be.

If they do have them and can get them to work then that will possibly solve their atmosphere/life support problem. Well, back to work for me.

that or there are not any raw material on ship for the them to work with. that could be why a planet of sand was the first it stopped at, looking for silicon!

 

[Rykion]

Rush says right after mentioning that the ship's name is Destiny that the ship was never crewed. He says the ancients were going to crew it through the Stargate once it was out far enough. It's unclear if this is partly conjecture or is all concrete info from his data searches. He believes they learned to ascend before the ship reached the point they would Stargate to.

The scenes shot in Kino view really give the impression of something watching, not just automated cameras. I'd like to see the ship's AI become a main character, but in a subtle way. Kind of like the TARDIS rather than Cortana from HALO.

 

[LightPhoenix]

I have not watched every single episode, but I've spent the last few months watching up to the end of season 7 of SG-1 on Hulu, and as of that point I believe the only time we ever saw a gate on a ship receive a wormhole was when that ship was in orbit around a planet with a gate address. The ship-bound gate couldn't establish a wormhole unless it was near a planet that had a gate.

There's a bit more of this in SG:A, for various reasons. To sum up, it seems to be that it's linked to the presence of a DHD, rather than a specific place. That's why Ra could bring a second stargate to Earth, and be able to use it.

 

[Fast Learner]

The scenes shot in Kino view really give the impression of something watching, not just automated cameras. I'd like to see the ship's AI become a main character, but in a subtle way. Kind of like the TARDIS rather than Cortana from HALO.

Excellent analogy with the TARDIS, that would be perfect. Just enough intelligence for it to be something that both occasionally gives a helping hand and occasionally gets in the way, but is never a full-fledged character and can't be relied upon for deus ex machina plot solutions.

 

[Jack7]

Rush says right after mentioning that the ship's name is Destiny that the ship was never crewed. He says the ancients were going to crew it through the Stargate once it was out far enough. It's unclear if this is partly conjecture or is all concrete info from his data searches. He believes they learned to ascend before the ship reached the point they would Stargate to.

That would explain why I didn't know the name of the ship either. Wonder how he got the name? Made it up, read it on panel or control board, the ship told him, previous research?

The scenes shot in Kino view really give the impression of something watching, not just automated cameras. I'd like to see the ship's AI become a main character, but in a subtle way. Kind of like the TARDIS rather than Cortana from HALO.

I agree with FL, that's a good way to handle it. Though I'd also like to see the ship's AI evolve over time, assuming it has any. I've also considered that it would be interesting if the ship had its own agenda, or if the AI was implanted, or at least a separate AI implant had been established by aliens who had previously encountered the ship.

Many years ago I ran a Star Fleet Battles/Role Play set of games once with a Federation Battleship called the Napoleon that became self-aware through alien intervention. The entire surface of the ship, not just the computers were housing for the AI.

It was extremely interesting the way the crew, and later on the Federation and other aliens interacted with the ship, and sometimes how they acted at odds with one another. In a frontiers/no rescue situation like SGU, that kinda thing would be even more interesting and problematic.

that or there are not any raw material on ship for the them to work with. that could be why a planet of sand was the first it stopped at, looking for silicon!

That's a clever observation and idea. The ship scavenges for raw materials. It's how I'd do it in a totally unknown, alien, frontiers environment.

 

[Rykion]

That would explain why I didn't know the name of the ship either. Wonder how he got the name? Made it up, read it on panel or control board, the ship told him, previous research?

The scene starts about an hour and 17 minutes into the show on Hulu. Rush is talking to Eli and mentions he has been doing data searches to try to learn how to fix life support. He had no luck finding that info, but found the ship's name.

 

[Dire Bare]

This was happening in SG: Atlantis

Overall I was happy with it but could not help seeing Rush as Dr. Smith! He may be an a$$ but why do they distrust him soooo much, sure he keeps things to himself but he also seems to be VERY proactive. He is a leader, where most of the rest want to debate actions or whine about them.

I don't think the show will fall into the ST:V rut and hoped they learned lessons from SG: Atlantis.

He's a secretive ass, which naturally engenders dislike and distrust. And then, at the beginning, he dials the "ninth chevron" INSTEAD of dialing Earth! He chooses scientific curiosity over human lives. And he continues to be secretive ass who comforts a young woman who just lost her father with, "You should be proud, he died for science!" (heavily paraphrased)

The character is a jackass . . . and I love it!!! Quite a bit of a different tone than earlier Stargate shows!

 

[coyote6]

Rush did have a (claimed) reason for not dialing Earth -- the planet was about to explode, and he didn't want to risk letting the blast be gated back to Earth. IIRC, Rush had a scene of staring at a photos, which seems to imply some hidden background element -- lost love or the like. I'm also curious to see if anyone actually put him in charge or not.

I thought about the use-the-camera-to-close-the-door thing; however, Eli didn't seem to have any particularly fine control over the device. It mostly just floated at a more-or-less static altitude, and either followed him, or (the first camera he turned loose) went along its way with little or no input from him. So I assume they can't control the kinos well enough to hit the switch.

(Also, when Eli said he called 'em kinos, he mentioned something about Russian -- google says "kino" [or "Кино́"] is Russian for cinema.)

I was (pleasantly) surprised that the air supply problem wasn't solved at the end of the two hours.