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jdavis said:
The clone O'Neil will probably end up taking Cassandra the adopted daughter of Dr. Fraiser to prom:)


Or maybe its just an N.I.D. plot to see what happens if they combine two hyperevolved humans :)
 

Femerus the Gnecro said:
But about 'Space Race' er... I *hated* that episode. It was like they made a bad knockoff of an even worse Voyager episode. It's not the first time that happened either. Remember "Workforce?"

I liked workforce... never watched voyager, so I don't worry about any ripping off...

More to the point, I'd like to see space race because it looks like carter is actually a pilot in it... One of the things that kinda bugs me is that Oneil was special ops, mostly running around on the ground, and carter was supposedly actually a pilot in the gulf war... so how come every time something needs flown its oneil in the front seat? :confused:

Oh, and I hated the one with mini-me just because of the part where a room full of air force is more willing to listen to a skinny kid who claims to be someone than a expereinced officer who happens to be a woman. :mad:

Kahuna burger
 

jdavis said:
The clone O'Neil will probably end up taking Cassandra the adopted daughter of Dr. Fraiser to prom:)

I think of her more as carter's adopted daughter, she was the one who bonded with her, not the doc.

Kahuna burger
 

Kahuna Burger said:
I think of her more as carter's adopted daughter, she was the one who bonded with her, not the doc.

Kahuna burger

Except for some minor details such as the fact that she lives with Dr. Frasier, who is also very likely her legal guardian.
 

While I love the show, I do find that its developed its own cliches that some could find annoying:
1. Relationships
A) Daniel's love interests always become Gould (Sha're, Sarah
Gardner)
B) Sam's love interests always die dramatically/heroically
(Martouf/Lantash, Elliot/Lantash, Narim, the ambassador
who gets left with the Aschen, presumedly to die)
C) Jack's love interests wind up getting left behind for rather
thin reasons (that
woman he was with for like a year as he was stranded on
her planet, his wife on Pelop's world.
2. Children
A) They very often have emotional subplots involving children,
usually to hilight either Jack's guilt over his son or Sam's
mother side (Skaara, Cassandra, Little Jack, Maren (and
that chubby kid from the same planet), the Nox kid, Rayac perhaps)

3. Political Correctness or the lack thereof
A) Are Teal'c and Rayac the only non-evil minorities in the universe?
B) Fortunately they stopped beating us over the head with
Sam-as-Buffy/Zena-with-a-chip-on-her-shoulder-the-size-of-
that-astroid-Anubis-shot-at-earth female empowerment
subplots early on. Its so much better to just let people come
to those very same conclusions on their own by gender NOT
being an issue.
 
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DM_Matt said:
Fortunately they stopped beating us over the head with
Sam-as-Buffy/Zena-with-a-chip-on-her-shoulder-the-size-of-
that-astroid-Anubis-shot-at-earth female empowerment
subplots early on. Its so much better to just let people come
to those very same conclusions on their own by gender NOT
being an issue.

uh, its spelled Xena, and I can't for the life of me think of more than one female empowement subplot... which was more of the main plot... But then I expect strong characters be they female or male, so it doesn't stike me as anything to worry about when sam is played as a strong character. (who had a well deserved chip for exactly one episode until Oneil got over his issues.)

Guess its all in what bugs ya... I just wish they weren't such wusses when it comes to the christian religion and figures.

Kahuna burger
 


Kahuna Burger said:
uh, its spelled Xena, and I can't for the life of me think of more than one female empowement subplot... which was more of the main plot... But then I expect strong characters be they female or male, so it doesn't stike me as anything to worry about when sam is played as a strong character. (who had a well deserved chip for exactly one episode until Oneil got over his issues.)

Guess its all in what bugs ya... I just wish they weren't such wusses when it comes to the christian religion and figures.

Kahuna burger

It was actually the first three or so, and the pilot. It grated on me because I did not see them until I'd seen most of the rest of it.

What I mean to say is that strong female characters prove that they are as good as the men by BEING just as good, rather than resorting to being whiney about it or conforming to annoying cliches.

Regarding "wusses when it comes to the Christian religion," they DID have an episode with Christians who feared Sokar (Satan) and his "demons," (Unas-based Jaffa) but the vast majority of Gould left Earth before Christianity existed. I don't see the need to demand that, for instance, Jesus be a Gould except to make people who are intolerant towards Christians happy. Respecting religions that actually still exist rather than trying to claim that people are worshipping evil aliens is just common courtesy. There is nothing wrong with a show realizing that its rude to attack living belief systems in such a manner.

Besides, on competitive planets the Gould can't pull off the monotheism thing. Henotheism is the best they could get away with.

[Note: I am not a Christian. I just think that people ought to respect the rights and sensabilities of other religions, at least to the extent that they are not directly harmed in a substantial way by them (and disagreeing with political viewpoints that may happen to have gained support in law through the democratic process and are influenced by religious principles does not count. ) ]
 
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DM_Matt said:
Except for some minor details such as the fact that she lives with Dr. Frasier, who is also very likely her legal guardian.
She is. Dr. Frasier adopted Cassandra who is now living a normal life as a Tauri Teenager, almost cut short due to a Nirrti's experment on her, but after SG-1 coerced Nirrti to fix the problem and she became well, she's pretty much finished as far as her story arc.
 

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