5E Starter Set Cleric Sheet

[Thaumaturge]

Here.

Commence lauding or bemoaning as you see fit.

Thaumaturge.

 

[Drakhar]

Just looking at the stats and comparing them to the humans. Human: 16/15/14/13/11/9 Dwarf: 16/15/14/12/10/8, initial worries that the human was keeping +1 to all shows that this is not the case.

 

[Morrus]

 

[Plaguescarred]

I like how the background ties to the story and setting.

 

[Mirtek]

initial worries that the human was keeping +1 to all shows that this is not the case.

Yeah, who would ever want humans to be competitve to the ubermensch races +1 to three (probably even forced to be the lowest three) totally makes up for darkvision and an extra hp every level. Three cheers for the humans .... or not

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

Just looking at the stats and comparing them to the humans. Human: 16/15/14/13/11/9 Dwarf: 16/15/14/12/10/8, initial worries that the human was keeping +1 to all shows that this is not the case.

Actually I do not believe that this proves it at all. Race and Subrace (where available) can all affect your stats.

 

[Drakhar]

Yeah, who would ever want humans to be competitve to the ubermensch races

I do want the humans to be competitive, what I don't want is humans to be better statistically then all the other races. Give humans floating attribute points and extra proficiency with a skill or even a saving throw to show human's versatility and potential, they don't need to be just as agile and smart as an Elf, while also being as hardy and wise as a Dwarf and as strong and charismatic as a Dragonborn. Doing it that way devalues the other races.

 

[jrowland]

Just looking at the stats and comparing them to the humans. Human: 16/15/14/13/11/9 Dwarf: 16/15/14/12/10/8, initial worries that the human was keeping +1 to all shows that this is not the case.

Or it could be Dwarves (and other races) get +2 to one stat and +1 to another.

If Standard Array: 15,14,13,12,10,8
Humans get +1 to all: 16,15,14,13,11,9
Dwarves gets +2/+1: 16*,15**,14,13,12,10,8 (* +1, ** +2)

Speculation of course, but it doesn't necessarily mean humans lost +1 to all

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

I do want the humans to be competitive, what I don't want is humans to be better statistically then all the other races. Give humans floating attribute points and extra proficiency with a skill or even a saving throw to show human's versatility and potential, they don't need to be just as agile and smart as an Elf, while also being as hardy and wise as a Dwarf and as strong and charismatic as a Dragonborn. Doing it that way devalues the other races.

A +1 to a stat is a lot different than a +2 to a stat. It is close but does not make them on par with a race with a +2 to a stat.

So the Human can be almost as agile or as smart an Elf, or almost as hardy as a Dwarf or almost as Strong and Charismatic as a Dragonborn but they aren't just quite equal but close to them.

 

[Drakhar]

Or it could be Dwarves (and other races) get +2 to one stat and +1 to another.

If Standard Array: 15,14,13,12,10,8
Humans get +1 to all: 16,15,14,13,11,9
Dwarves gets +2/+1: 16*,15**,14,13,12,10,8 (* +1, ** +2)

Speculation of course, but it doesn't necessarily mean humans lost +1 to all

Well that would be true, except you've given Dwarves 7 stats not 6.

 

[Wrathamon]

I like how the cleric and fighter can play cards together and neither of them shuffle well cause their dex is so bad!

 

[Mirtek]

Well that would be true, except you've given Dwarves 7 stats not 6.

Great, now the humans are even more underpowered lacking an entire stat

 

[Drakhar]

So doing a little reverse engineering and checking with the playtest, Hill Dwarves get +1 Con and +1 Str. Taking away those bonuses gives the array of 16/14/13/12/10/8. Which means that Human's cannot get +1 to all stats because of the lack of a 17. Which means...they get +1 to 5? That seems odd

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

So doing a little reverse engineering and checking with the playtest, Hill Dwarves get +1 Con and +1 Str. Taking away those bonuses gives the array of 16/14/13/12/10/8. Which means that Human's cannot get +1 to all stats because of the lack of a 17. Which means...they get +1 to 5? That seems odd

Things have changed since the Beta packet a little bit

 

[Nikosandros]

A +1 to a stat is a lot different than a +2 to a stat. It is close but does not make them on par with a race with a +2 to a stat.

So the Human can be almost as agile or as smart an Elf, or almost as hardy as a Dwarf or almost as Strong and Charismatic as a Dragonborn but they aren't just quite equal but close to them.

Until the latest playtest package, non-humans didn't get +2 to a stat. If that's how things are now, I'll be certainly more accepting towards humans getting +1 to all stats. In this way humans would be well rounded, while the other races can excel in a single stat.

 

[M.L. Martin]

Changes I noticed when posting this at RPGNet:

• Prepared spells are now level + casting stat modifier (so for most purposes, level + 3 or 4 at 1st-3rd level, level + 5 by mid-levels)
• Turn undead's destruction clause is now triggered by CR, not Max HP.

 

[ccooke]

Interesting.

"You can prepare a number of spells equal to your level + your Wisdom modifier" - This cleric can choose to prepare up to four spells at level 1, plus the two domain spells always available. No bonus spell slots (which is good for power levels), but it's nice that having a good primary stat will make a bigger difference now.

 

[Talath]

I'm pretty sure the stat array was 15/14/13/12/10/8, but I don't have my book handy.

 

[Talath]

If you add +1 to the entire array you get 16/15/14/13/11/9, which was what the human fighter had. They still have +1 to all stats.

 

[Mistwell]

Well that would be true, except you've given Dwarves 7 stats not 6.

Dwarves, and only dwarves, get comeliness!