Str 52! Bite of the Werebear and Bear form + VoP

[Diirk]

If a sorcerer casts Bull's Strength, then polymorphs into a troll... does the bull's strength spell stop working? Same thing.

 

[Cephid]

If a sorcerer casts Bull's Strength, then polymorphs into a troll... does the bull's strength spell stop working? Same thing.

I didn't think so. Does it?

And does anyone have any ideas or links to MinMaxing a druid keeping in mind that:
1) when in wildshape you don't count as animal
2) bite of the x is overpowered with wild shape.

The old druids handbook is great, but it uses the two above issues, and the old wildshape rules. It's at http://forums.gleemax.com/wotc_archive/index.php/t-165279

 

[Hypersmurf]

I didn't think so. Does it?

Sure - you go from being a human under the effects of a Bull's Strength spell, to being a troll under the effects of a Bull's Strength spell. Just like the troll still has the sorcerer's Mage Armor, Blur, and Fly spells.

-Hyp.

 

[Tetsubo]

I thought Wildshape DID grant you the Animal Type...? I was under the impression that a Druid could benefit from an Animal Growth spell while Wildshaped...

Now the PHB II alternate class feature Shapeshift DOESN'T grant type, you remain your normal races type.

I would rule that the VoP Str bonus works only in your normal form, not while Wildshaped. But it WOULD work if you were Shapeshifted...

 

[Hypersmurf]

I thought Wildshape DID grant you the Animal Type...?

It used to. Check the errata.

-Hyp.

 

[Jhulae]

It used to. Check the errata.

-Hyp.

Or the Rules Compendium.

 

[Stalker0]

Frankly, I think many of the "bite..." spells in the ST are overpowered to begin with.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

the bite spells are broken with wild shape. I don't think it was intended for use with wild shape but an alternative to it. Sadly ironic.

 

[Kat']

1) Is the feat 'natural spell' (cast spells while wild shaped) legal, unbroken feat?
2) Has it been taken into account that EVERY druid has it when the game is designed?
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Master of Many Forms doesn't need it. Not really. Drd 5/MoMF 10/Warshaper 5 (not necessarily in that order) has nearly no spellcasting and thus doesn't need Natural Spell.

 

[Tetsubo]

Or the Rules Compendium.

So... if you are Wildshaped can you be affected by an Enlarge Person or Righteous Might spell? Assuming that you are a race that can be affected by such a spell...