Spoilers Superman Spoiler Thread

[Eric V]

Kevin Smith suggested White Martian.

That was our first thought as well.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Fair enough. You live for 1 breath...and the universe ends (or goes into heat death). So life is no longer supportable, and then you either starve to death, suffocate (most likely) or freeze slowly. whether its a billion or a googleplex of years later its still going to happen.

At the end of the day, I hope we can all agree getting sucked into a black hole is a terrible way to go.

If you were a normal human, or anything else conceivable by current science, you would be dead long before you got anywhere near the event horizon. But with comic book invulnerability, you don’t experience anything until someone rescues you or you find yourself in a new universe. No, it’s far from the worst possible fate, and it’s pretty much guaranteed that you will be back.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

It may be possible for the black hole to evaporate before that so they can escape

Given the apparent size of the pocket universe, is there enough antimatter floating around for the black hole to absorb, eventually causing it to dissolve? (IANAA*.)

In any case, I don't think Gunn is going to waste an imperfect Superman clone, when he can just have him emerge, worse for wear, as Bizarrro at some point.

Actually, I suspect, Superman or Supergirl or Krypto or someone else will end up falling into a black hole some day and discover that Bizarro has set up Bizarro World, given all of the love for Silver Age stuff in this movie.

* I Am Not An Astrophysicist

 

[ART!]

Mr. Terrific has been steadily rising in profile since he appeared in one of the modern day Justice Society runs. In the Justice Gang, he's serving the same role as Batman in the Justice League -- the super-smart billionaire who vaguely looks down on Superman while still being a hero -- but without ruining the Batman mystique by having him run around in the daylight and on camera. I suspect we're going to see a lot of Terrific going forward, especially with the fantastic appearance in this film.

If Corenswet's portrayal wasn't so human-ized/ing, Gathegi might have stolen this movie.

Super-picky thing, and not important -- and the kind of thing I roll my eyes when people say this sort of thing about the MCU movies -- but why change the name from "LexCorp" to "LuthorCorp?" "LexCorp" has been around for decades at this point and, via the cartoon, I think it's probably better known to the general public than any of the secondary heroes in this movie are.

It's not a problem, per se, but I look forward to the director commentary potentially explaining that change.

I think Gunn said he did this because no one names a company using their first name. Although it's easy to imagine Lex doing so.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Given the apparent size of the pocket universe, is there enough antimatter floating around for the black hole to absorb, eventually causing it to dissolve? (IANAA*.)

Real world physics, tiny black holes evaporate quickly.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I think Gunn said he did this because no one names a company using their first name. Although it's easy to imagine Lex doing so.

At least he didn't name it after his favorite letter of the alphabet.

 

[Stalker0]

Real world physics, tiny black holes evaporate quickly.

Even a 1000 kg black hole would take 2.50375 ×10^45 years to evaporate, and considering everything that hole was sucking up that seems an easy estimate.

But I recognize we are getting WAY off topic here. The start of this conversation was that the movie had a tonal disconnect when Superman showed no reaction to throwing his clone into a black hole....yet goes out of his way in the rest of the movie to save every life he can.

Now with the power of comic books, is it possible (and likely probable) that the clone will emerge from the blackhole, likely in only a few years as opposed to the billions or trillions or googleplexes of years it would actually take.....absolutely. But that's not the point, Superman doesn't know that. All he knows is he just threw a guy into a vortex that "might" be able to kill him, or trap him for all eternity. Definitely not a nice fate.....and so you would expect a reaction from Superman on that act.

Its the one spot in the movie where the personality established for this Superman (which is otherwise PITCH PERFECT imo) is violated.

 

[Thomas Shey]

It does feel like we needed a few more seconds of reaction from him. That said, I think we're going to see Ultraman/Bizarro return from the black hole/other dimension one of these days.

That was my wife's assumption, too.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I think they did a bit of practical stuff -- there's a Humane Society certification near the end of the credits saying they monitored how animals were handled in the movie and that they were all treated well.

Might not have been Krypto, though; note there's at least one other dog and a squirrel in the movie.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Mr. Terrific has been steadily rising in profile since he appeared in one of the modern day Justice Society runs. In the Justice Gang, he's serving the same role as Batman in the Justice League -- the super-smart billionaire who vaguely looks down on Superman while still being a hero -- but without ruining the Batman mystique by having him run around in the daylight and on camera. I suspect we're going to see a lot of Terrific going forward, especially with the fantastic appearance in this film.

He also leans into the tech more than Batman, though obviously there's some overlap.