Survivor Core Classes- ROGUE STEALS THE VICTORY!

[jasper]

Artificer 18 - 2 = 16 - Not in MY D&D!!
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 15
Paladin 18
Ranger 21
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 20
Warlock 20
Wizard 21 +1 = 22 Wizard needs Love

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Artificer 17
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 15
Paladin 18
Ranger 21
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 20
Warlock 20
Wizard 20 - boring

 

[Fenris-77]

Artificer 17
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 16
Paladin 18
Ranger 21
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 18 Meh
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[Tyler Do'Urden]

Artificer 18 Not core, but cool. So is the Warlord.
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 14 The only class I'd remove from the PHB
Paladin 18
Ranger 21
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 18
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[Fenris447]

Artificer 19
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 14
Paladin 18
Ranger 21
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 16
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[Laurefindel]

As an aside, I understand why people may not care for the monk as a class as it does not fit in with their conception of "D&D," or because they feel that it is a poor fit with the otherwise mostly pseudo-western European fantasy approach of the base rules (Tolkien/Lieber/Howard/Zelazny/Vance).

I would only say-
1. You can always use the monk rules for all sorts of other concepts, such as the classic brawler.

2. I continue to believe that the 5e monk is, perhaps, the best melding of rules and concept. In terms of fit to design, I think it's perfect.

Monk (drunken master in particular) with its fluff stripped and replaced makes a perfect thief-acrobat stand-in. I went as far as copying the SRD's monk and search/replace "monk" by "thief-acrobat", "ki" with "tumble", renamed abilities without changing the text, and am quite satisfied with it.

and accordingly...

Artificer 19
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 14 + 1 = 15 (go thief-acrobat!)
Paladin 18
Ranger 21 - 2 = 19 (I REALLY want to love you ranger, but I wish I could love you for more than 6 levels...)
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 16
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[rczarnec]

Artificer 17
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20
Monk 15
Paladin 19
Ranger 19
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 16
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Artificer 17
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 20 +1 = 21
Monk 15 - 2 = 13
Paladin 19
Ranger 19
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 16
Warlock 20
Wizard 20

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

Hot Take: I think Monk should be replaced by Psion as a core class, BUT with disciplines that allow to replicate the monk's things: celerity, empowered unarmed strikes etc...

 

[akr71]

Artificer 15
Barbarian 20
Bard 20
Cleric 20
Druid 20
Fighter 21
Monk 14
Paladin 19
Ranger 19
Rogue 20
Sorcerer 16
Warlock 20
Wizard 20