SW SAGA EDITION: Preview 7

[ValhallaGH]

I have a suspicion that two weapon penalties are -10/-10 untrained, -5/-5 with Dual Weapon Mastery I, and -0/-0 with Dual Weapon Mastery II.

Alternatively, one of the Dual Weapon Mastery feats may change the action type required by two weapon fighting.

Note that this is all rampant speculation with very little supporting evidence. All I've got is that Trandoshan and the Droideka, and the recurrence of the number 5 in Saga Edition.

 

[Baby Samurai]

1.) I have a suspicion that two weapon penalties are -10/-10 untrained, -5/-5 with Dual Weapon Mastery I, and -0/-0 with Dual Weapon Mastery II.


2.) Alternatively, one of the Dual Weapon Mastery feats may change the action type required by two weapon fighting.

1.) I think you’re right that Dual Weapon Mastery lessens the penalty from –10 to –5, but if Dual Weapon Mastery II brings it to –0, meanwhile the two-handed wielder is always at BAB –5 when Double Attacking, that would not be fair to the two-handed fighter, except for the fact that the two-handed dude does get to add x2 Str damage to his weapon.


2.) We know that Double Attack (attack twice with the same weapon at BAB –5) is a full round action, so I would think Dual Weapon fighting would also be a full round action, otherwise why would you ever fight in any way but Dual Wielding, as you could attack twice as a standard action, meanwhile the Two-Handed wielders have to take a full round action to attack twice.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Even if that were the case (I don't think it will be) I wouldn't have a problem with it - I think that a style which costs feats to use *should* be better than a style which anyone can just pick up and use - I think 2H weapons get far too much love in D&D vis a vis other weapons!

 

[Baby Samurai]

Even if that were the case (I don't think it will be) I wouldn't have a problem with it - I think that a style which costs feats to use *should* be better than a style which anyone can just pick up and use

But you still have to take the feat Double Attack to be able to attack twice with one weapon, but you can attack with two-weapons without any feats, but obviously the Dual Weapon Mastery feats lessen the penalties.

So far it looks like using Double Attack (attack with same weapon twice at BAB –5) or fighting with two weapons (1 attack with each weapon at BAB –10) is a full round action. And Dual Weapon Mastery I lessens the penalties for dual wielding from –10 to –5, and that Dual Weapon Mastery II lessens the penalties from –5 to –0.

What do you think?

 

[ValhallaGH]

But you still have to take the feat Double Attack to be able to attack twice with one weapon, but you can attack with two-weapons without any feats, but obviously the Dual Weapon Mastery feats lessen the penalties.

Who's to say that there isn't a Double Attack II that lets you use that feat faster than usual? Or a Dual Weapon Mastery III that does the same for those feats?

 

[Henry]

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[Baby Samurai]

Who's to say that there isn't a Double Attack II that lets you use that feat faster than usual? Or a Dual Weapon Mastery III that does the same for those feats?

Exactly.

Maybe there is a Triple Attack (make 3 attacks at BAB –5) feat?

 

[ValhallaGH]

Maybe there is a Triple Attack (make 3 attacks at BAB –5) feat?

I hope not. Doing the attacks as a standard action, or a swift and standard, is a lot more interesting ability than getting another attack.
If there are that many attacks then why did they bother "dropping" iterative attacks?

 

[Baby Samurai]

1.) Doing the attacks as a standard action, or a swift and standard, is a lot more interesting ability than getting another attack.


2.) If there are that many attacks then why did they bother "dropping" iterative attacks?

1.) I agree.


2.) Because iterative attacks are dribbling – you have one at BAB, the second at BAB –5, the third at BAB –10-, the fourth at…

Now you just have X amount of attacks all at the same bonus.