That thread about cars

I have researched them well and actually talked to a salesman a few years back…but fiscal responsibility got the better of me (my car was still new!).

Maybe one day!
Hope it works out for you when the time is right :)
Crazy now that the FK8s are worth more now used than when new. But the car market overall is crazy!

I had a '92 Prelude that I sold in ~'01 and was looking for a project car back in '16 or so and was going to go with a 'lude until the articles on the CTR came out. Got excited as I needed a daily and wanted to get n the track too and could do both with that car. I too had to wait a few years my job wasn't very stable and finally got a Type R new in May 2020. Have about 16k miles and 20 track days on it :) All smiles.
 

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But game respect game, and the VW GTI is one of the greatest hot hatches.
Yep. But after Emissions Gate I just don't trust the company. Having worked in engineering and often been involved in cultural change initiatives, I know what it took for that to happen, and I know what it takes to change the culture. I don't trust that the engineering culture has changed to something I can respect, yet.
Generally, I like the Japanese cars for wrenching and mods. More forgiving than the Germans.
Yea, this is the first car I'm getting into mods with. Interesting sub-culture.
All that said, I still have a soft spot for Pure American Muscle.
No doubt, me too. Even still they are the poster children for fast cars, even when they are not :)
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Yea, this is the first car I'm getting into mods with. Interesting sub-culture.

Congratulations! You will now have an answer to the question, "What is more expensive than a WH40k addiction, and more time-consuming than deciding to remodel your entire house yourself?"

On the plus side, it could be worse. I have a friend who is really into boats. Not only do I get to make fun of him, but I get to enjoy the fruit of his labors.

No doubt, me too. Even still they are the poster children for fast cars, even when they are not :)

The classics are just that ... so amazing.

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If I ever got to have a project classic car to really get going on, it would be this ('65 Catalina 2+2) or something similar. As it is, I am currently on an Audi TT (Mk1) with and for a young relative.
 

Ryujin

Legend
Congratulations! You will now have an answer to the question, "What is more expensive than a WH40k addiction, and more time-consuming than deciding to remodel your entire house yourself?"

On the plus side, it could be worse. I have a friend who is really into boats. Not only do I get to make fun of him, but I get to enjoy the fruit of his labors.
My last motorcycle was a 650cc twin, that cost me about C$8,500. I put $4,500 worth of suspension mods on it without ever touching the engine, or exhaust. Power means nothing, if you can't get it to the ground ;)
 


Ryujin

Legend
I should also note that there is a way to burn through money faster than WH40K, car modding, or boats. It's racing. I've seen more than a few motorcycle racers burn through a second mortgage in a season, then never come back to the track again. I'd hate to think what racing cars would cost.
 





I should also note that there is a way to burn through money faster than WH40K, car modding, or boats. It's racing. I've seen more than a few motorcycle racers burn through a second mortgage in a season, then never come back to the track again. I'd hate to think what racing cars would cost.
Racing costs as much money as you are willing to put into it. Takes a great deal of discipline not to spend that next paycheck on something cool/hot/fast or just to replace something worn. Like Tires! Tires are crazy, you can go anywhere from a set of street tires you drive home to thousands of dollars per race (i.e. F1, Indy, Nascar, etc).

How do you make a million dollars in racing? Start with two.
From Minneapolis so naturally we ice race here.
Winner gets a bag of cheese curds? ;)
while over 20 years of track photography told me why I shouldn't ;)
I would never do motorcycles. I require 4 wheels, and even then I am not casual about safety like so many others are. Sure nomex and a firesuit, gloves and shoes are hot, but all it takes is once. I've seen 2 car fires on the track in just a few years. No one ever hurt because the group I run with has its own safety truck w/ fire extinguishers never more than 60 seconds out and no one ever injured. But 60 seconds in a fully enveloped gas fire you don't survive unscathed without a full set of certified gear.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Staff member
One of my mentors was one of the last white guys to grow up in Compton. (I’ve seen some of his old pix.) As a result of his background, he was among the most unlikely rap fans I’ve ever met. He introduced me to this song, which I now share here, in this place:

 

Ryujin

Legend
Racing costs as much money as you are willing to put into it. Takes a great deal of discipline not to spend that next paycheck on something cool/hot/fast or just to replace something worn. Like Tires! Tires are crazy, you can go anywhere from a set of street tires you drive home to thousands of dollars per race (i.e. F1, Indy, Nascar, etc).

How do you make a million dollars in racing? Start with two.

Winner gets a bag of cheese curds? ;)

I would never do motorcycles. I require 4 wheels, and even then I am not casual about safety like so many others are. Sure nomex and a firesuit, gloves and shoes are hot, but all it takes is once. I've seen 2 car fires on the track in just a few years. No one ever hurt because the group I run with has its own safety truck w/ fire extinguishers never more than 60 seconds out and no one ever injured. But 60 seconds in a fully enveloped gas fire you don't survive unscathed without a full set of certified gear.
If you want to be at least competitive even at amateur level, in sportbike racing, you're going through between $600 and $1200 worth of just tires per weekend. If you're a front runner, double that. Folks are wearing airbag suits now, to try and improve survivability in a crash. Two ambulances on site for a race weekend. At least one on a track day, for non racers.

I crewed for a friend who raced the FZR400 that I'm riding in that picture, for three years. His mantra was "IT on Monday" to remind himself that he wasn't a pro racer, so there was no need to try and push so hard that he'd pay the price. He still took a couple of rides in an ambulance.

I've crashed several times on the street, but never did on the track. On the track everyone is going the same direction and, if you're careful about choosing the groups that you ride with, there's a certain minimum level of skill and understanding of the rules of engagement. No intersections. No oncoming traffic to turn left across your path. The biggest danger is that some idjit thinks he's the next coming of Valentino Rossi and gets well in over his head, taking you out along with him. I've dodged a few of those in my time. Fixing broken bikes is also expensive and not recommended.
 





Richards

Legend
A couple decades back, a few of my co-workers were having a discussion about their ultimate dream cars. One wanted a Lamborghini, another a classic Corvette Stingray, and so on. They dragged me into the conversation (I'm not a car guy), so I told them my dream car was probably a Dodge Caravan.

After much mockery about my "pedestrian" dream car, I pointed out that I was already driving around in my dream car, while they would have to wait for theirs, if they in fact ever managed to get one.

They pretty much left me alone after that when it came to car discussions.

Johnathan
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Staff member
A couple decades back, a few of my co-workers were having a discussion about their ultimate dream cars. One wanted a Lamborghini, another a classic Corvette Stingray, and so on. They dragged me into the conversation (I'm not a car guy), so I told them my dream car was probably a Dodge Caravan.

After much mockery about my "pedestrian" dream car, I pointed out that I was already driving around in my dream car, while they would have to wait for theirs, if they in fact ever managed to get one.

They pretty much left me alone after that when it came to car discussions.

Johnathan
Back in the late 1990s, a guy was trying to hype up a business deal to me, claiming I could make enough money to buy whatever car I wanted. Then he asked me what that would be. A buddy of mine was sitting there, silently observing.

I said a fully loaded Audi or Volvo sports sedan.

He said, No, I mean WHATEVER car you’d want to buy. A dream car.”

I replied, “I know all the various badges out there, and have fantasized about Porsches, Lotuses, Maseratis, De Tomasos, McLarens and others. I have friends and associates who own such vehicles, so I’ve been IN them. But I also know that I can’t drive a stick, and probably couldn’t handle the horsepower safely. And even if I could, those cars are impractical for my lifestyle. So I would get a loaded sports sedan from Audi or Volvo.”

The look on that guy’s face was so befuddled that my buddy started cackling his ass off. The rest of his spiel was disjointed after that.

These days, I might add a few other companies’ sports sedans and certain SUVs to the mix. But nothing truly exotic.
 

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