D&D 5E (2024) The 4 Classes I Would Not Play 1-20 In 5.5

[Zardnaar]

Well its an improvement over 2014. There's only 4 classes i wouldn't play 1-20.

Theses clases are.

1. Barbarian
The Barbarian has been a bit of a one trick pony since 3.0. It has been buffed in 5.5. However its still focused on melee and it has weak defenses eg wisdom saves. At higher levels there's just to many saves targeting them with DCs 17-25. Berzerker and Zealot are a bit better but still. Fighters/Monks/Paladins are more appealing.

2. Ranger.
We all know the various issues with Ranger. I just don't see to much point in staying single classed after level 5. They're quite good tier 1. There's a couple of very narrow builds that are a maybe. And they fall off level 10 or 11.

3. Rogue. Good at skills. New fighters and Bards hell even start clerics/druids/warlocks step on the rogues toes to much. Espicially at lower levels. Haven't been seeing to many rogues rolled up even in 5.0 last one was around Covid. They're the Gnomes of 5E.

4. Wizard. This one's mostly due to buffs to Warlocks and Sorcerers. Plus competition from every other primary spellcaster. Level 10× they're great but that's to long to wait. Warlock has it other way around front loaded falls off level 12+. Getting extra spells is also campaign and DM dependent. Otherwise Sorcerer knows more spells now. Saving throws are another issue. Intelligence saves are so rare you might not even use one. Wisdom is a tertiary stat a best for wizards. In effect you have no great saves.

 

[Scribe]

4. Wizard. This one's mostly due to buffs to Warlocks and Sorcerers. Plus competition from every other primary spellcaster. Level 10× they're great but that's to long to make. Warlock has it other way around front loaded falls off level 12+. Getting extra spells is also campaign abd DM dependent. Saving throws are another issue. Intelligence saves are so rare you might not even use one. Wisdom is a tertiary stat a best for wizards. In effect you have no great saves.

Would you say Sorcerer is best caster then? I havent played 5.5 but was reading over stuff last night as I couldnt sleep and I could see myself playing one.

 

[Zardnaar]

Would you say Sorcerer is best caster then? I havent played 5.5 but was reading over stuff last night as I couldnt sleep and I could see myself playing one.

At levels that matter I would say yes. Best saves as well.

Warlocks and Bards also great in different ways.

 

[Chaltab]

I'd be neat to have a VTT-supported version of the game with all the best versions of each class. The A5E Berserker (Barbarian rename, not a subclass) is insanely good.

I also think the Tales of the Valiant has a better take on the Ranger than 2024, though the A5E Ranger is also pretty neat in that it's a pure Martial with a 3rd Caster subclass.

 

[CreamCloud0]

Well its an improvement over 2014. There's only 4 classes i would play 1-20.

don't you mean would not?

(also you're missing a space in your thread title between 'Classes I')

 

[ECMO3]

What exactly do you mean when you say the classes you would not play?

I play to 20 regularly, but I almost always multiclass and the only class I see myself ever playing that high without multiclassing is a Paladin (Conquest Paladin to be specific and probably on a Dragonborn species). The closest I have come so far to 20th level in one class was on a Monk in the 2014 rules. I had a Dhamphir Long Death Monk 19/Death Cleric 1 and she started as a Cleric. I would consider it on a Paladin though.

So if you mean single class it is probably all of them except Paladin. Paladin is the only single class character I see myself playing to that level, although I haven't done that yet.

If you mean what I will call primary class the two I would not play are Barbarian, Druid and right now I will say Warlock for a third, but I used to say that about Bards in 2014 too and ended up playing a slew of them right before the 2024 rules came out.

If you are asking what class I would never have anywhere on my sheet, even in a 1-level dip, then the answer is Barbarian. I have had at least one level on a 20th level PC in every one of the other 2024 classes already.

Ranger is my favorite class to play, both in 2014 and 2024, but I multiclass it, almost always with a Charisma class and sometimes with other things. My last "20th level Ranger" finished the game as a Green Dragonborn Fey Wanderer 13/Glamor Bard 5/Monk 1/Druid 1.

Rogue is my second favorite class, both in 2014 and 2024. My last "20th level Rogue" in 2024 finished the game as a Kobold Arcane Trickster 10/Draconic Sorcerer 4/Hexblade 4/Paladin 2.

 

[Zardnaar]

What exactly do you mean when you say the classes you would not play?

I play to 20 regularly, but I almost always multiclass and the only class I see myself ever playing that high without multiclassing is a Paladin (Conquest Paladin to be specific and probably on a Dragonborn species).

So if you mean single class it is probably all of them except Paladin. Paladin is the only single class character I see myself playing to that level.

If you mean what I will call primary class the two I would not play are Barbarian, Druid and right now I will say Warlock, but I used to say that about Bards in 2014 and ended up playing a slew of them right before the 2024 rules came out.

If you are asking what class I would never have anywhere on my sheet, even in a 1-level dip, then the answer is Barbarian. I have had at least one level on a 20th level PC in every one of the other 2024 classes already.

Mostly single classed.

MC all the classes have something to offer. You're probably right with Barbarian being last though.