The 5' step and AoOs

[Trainz]

The only situation I can think of that moving 5' would incur an AoO is if you were crawling, IIRC.

AR

Could you please tell me where could I find (in the books) that ruling ?

 

[Camarath]

Could you please tell me where could I find (in the books) that ruling ?

Page 142 PHB under Move: Crawling

 

[Hypersmurf]

The only situation I can think of that moving 5' would incur an AoO is if you were crawling, IIRC.

Not necessarily. You can move five feet without it being a 5' step.

Even in unhindered terrain.

Example - using the Spring Attack, Shot on the Run, or Flyby Attack feat. You might move 5 feet, make an attack, and move another 5 feet.

Either of those moves might provoke an AoO (except, in the case of Spring Attack, from the target of your attack).

-Hyp.

 

[Altamont Ravenard]

Example - using the Spring Attack, Shot on the Run, or Flyby Attack feat. You might move 5 feet, make an attack, and move another 5 feet.

Yes but you would have moved 10', not 5'.

AR

 

[Hypersmurf]

Yes but you would have moved 10', not 5'.

But the first five feet would provoke an AoO, even if you ended up not being able to move the second five feet (for example, if someone tripped or grappled you on an AoO).

-Hyp.

 

[gordonknox]

Good Question and answers

I actually never got the 5 ft step thing either. It seems like it could always be done to avoid AoOs.

What about this:

The fighter attacks a creature in front of him and then steps backwards five feet.

But hidden in the shadows 10 ft behind the fighter is a crafty thief, waiting...

Now, the fighter did move into a thretened square, right? But, this movement was accomplished via a 5ft step. So, what happens? The thief doesnt get the AoO? That doesn't seem right.

Insights appreciated.

gk

 

[Camarath]

Now, the fighter did move into a thretened square, right? But, this movement was accomplished via a 5ft step. So, what happens? The thief doesnt get the AoO? That doesn't seem right.

Insights appreciated.

gk

Moving into a threatened square does not provoke an AoO. Moving out of a threatened space does provoke an AoO.

From SRD under Attacks of Opportunity

Moving: Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes an attack of opportunity from the threatening opponent. There are two common methods of avoiding such an attack—the 5-foot-step and the withdraw action (see below).

 

[Tatsukun]

AoOp

[QOUTE]
But hidden in the shadows 10 ft behind the fighter is a crafty thief, waiting...

Now, the fighter did move into a thretened square, right? But, this movement was accomplished via a 5ft step. So, what happens? The thief doesnt get the AoO? That doesn't seem right.
[/QUOTE]

No AoO, but the rogue probably has a readied action to attack then fighter-boy gets within range.

As has already been said, you don't get an AoO when someone ENTERS a space you threaten. Only when they LEAVE.

-Tatsu

 

[Hypersmurf]

As has already been said, you don't get an AoO when someone ENTERS a space you threaten. Only when they LEAVE.

With certain exceptions, like the Hold the Line feat.

-Hyp.

 

[gordonknox]

With certain exceptions, like the Hold the Line feat.

-Hyp.

Ok, what about this...

Same example, the fighter attacks the dreaded "creeature in front of him" and then steps back 10 feet. The rogue in this example is 15 feet behind the fighter.

Does the CIFOH now get an AoO? The fighter did move out of a threatened square.

gk